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Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Stop guys, stop. Be young in your mind. Be young. How are young people interpreting this? "Oh wow, I can get it to write or help edit essays" "I can use it as something to bounce ideas off of" "I can use it to take ideas from my head into the digital realm." Stop being old people.

You mean stop enjoying the benefits of experience and wisdom?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could call it: "AI Kessler syndrome". The internet becomes so full of hallucinating AI output that it becomes impossible to train the model.

So the first one takes it all?

No more that as you get more AIs, all AIs get shittier together.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#163
The solution for Google is to filter generated content, period. That will lead to an arms race of sorts, similar to the SEO keyword arms race. The SEO arms race resulted in keyword relevant, but unoriginal minimally useful content.

The problem for Google is that their advertisers love generated content.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#164
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, the singularity.

the singularity implies reaching a point where the AI’s improvement becomes self sustaining. this is the AI choking itself to death with bad training data.

I'm going to suggest giving Accelerando a read and consider the late state of the singularity.

http://www.accelerando.org

(heh - checking that link Charlie Stross just posted (Jan 31) a blog post: "An AI app walks into a writers room")

Anyways the link I was actually after ... give https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/acceler... a read and consider the "what happens in the later parts of the book."

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#165
post #27

I just want to make a twitch stream and have hundreds of gpt bots as audience. With enough energy you can pretty much make yourself an influencer now.

That's been available for 10 years since all the popular streams were just full of bots spamming twitch emoji or parroting one another's one-liner

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#167
post #139

No offense but in a world that includes video why will advertisers pay for text? This article is less thought-out than clickbait ads

First because it's not an either-or situation. Marketing works by finding different channels and approaches. You could say "in a world with video, why would people pay for an ad on a bus stop" with the same logic.

Secondly because advertisement is about trust. For a while, the ads on TV where all the rage because, if it's on TV then it's a proper brand. If in the short term future, like I postulate, the web becomes unreadable SEO filled trash, and people access it via Chat-GPT like technologies, then there will be an element of trust between the bot and the user. And that trust can be exploited, more or less subtly.

So why would they not take advantage of it?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#168

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

The worst part about this is that if there is another set of bots that tries to generate engagement, then the training data isn't coming from humans either. You have one set of actors spamming. And another set of actors upvoting stuff, predominantly their own but maybe also other random posts. So the resulting posts don't necessarily even cater to humans. It will be real online hellscape.

The web will transition strongly to verified identities, like we have with SSL certs. Along with filtering out people who use AI to post under a verified identity and get caught, It’s the only way to help ensure you’re reading actual human content.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#169
Well, this means that content curators and good content producers will gain in value.

The hard part will be to stand out, and to create things that AI can't easily reproduce, such as linking content to a service.

I think it's a good news for actual high quality original creator: they will rise to the sun.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#170
post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

That's what I've been feeling. Web3 is the organic web. Where we add back weight to transactions and build a noise threshold that drowns the spammers and SEOs. I always envisioned it requiring some sort of micropayments or government-issued web identity certificates. Everyone complaining about bubbles needs to realize that echo chambers are another issue entirely. Inorganic and organic content both create bubbles. We…

I feel this underestimates the seriousness of the difficulties we are facing in the area of social cohesion. The conflating of real/non-real and credible/non-credible is very much at the heart of the Trump/Brexit divide
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