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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

nullc wrote: post #98
SilasX wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in those words, no. But if you're that resentful about being laid off, and talking to the media about what a cosmic injustice it is rather than, "oh, well, I guess I can start spending some of the interest on the fortune I built up from 16 years at Google", then yes, you do still need the job badly.

Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job. You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job.

People who are laid off or fired can get mad for a variety of reasons other than those three you listed. Someone I know worked a lot to build a particular business and was promised by the owner that he'd always have a position there. Then he was let go when the economy went bad. He felt betrayed. Betrayal engenders anger, too.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by crossroadsguy »

grapehut wrote: post #72

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

The ugly truth is — false sexual harassment complaint is one those things in life you keep hoping and praying it never happens to you. But if it does you’re screwed one way or the other.

The stigma that it “automatically” brings just doesn’t go away. It just doesn’t. You forever become “that” person. And I really don’t know how it can be fixed. That’s just how it is.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by [deleted] »

blahlabs wrote: post #155
yutijke wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about the New York Post. Maybe it is guilty of publishing false and dishonest reporting. But I would also point out that a lot of people here on HN (in past discussions) and elsewhere have noted that the New York Times and the Washington Post also publish creatively interpreted news (or outright creative writing) at times. Despite this news articles from these sources are considered independently without…

I'm struggling to see how that would be relevant to the assertion the New York Post is not a credible publication. Seems like whataboutism to me.

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #158
0xcafefood wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had a manager at one job tell me explicitly that they gave an interview to a candidate but knew it wouldn't move forward to a hire since they wanted to hire a woman. I felt gross hearing and knowing that but it was said and not written so there was nothing I could do about it. And I probably would've gotten fired for raising an issue even if I did have that in writing.

Question for this sort of situation: could you send an email to "confirm the case" to your boss and your boss'boss for this? They would need to respond and get this in writing. At that point, if they fire you they will have a big problem, if they don't hire the person, they will still have a big problem. I understand that it creates a whole set of bad situations, so just asking what's the theoretical appropriate way…

No. Don't do this unless you have a backup job, or can survive fine for a while on unemployment. If you do want to report the behavior, report the pertinent details to the EEOC (or whatever is equivalent for your country).

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by koonsolo »

deaddodo wrote: post #154
kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

I worked at a company a few years back where the hiring manager for the engineering and product teams proudly exclaimed that she would actively go against hiring a man, until the teams were at minimum 50% women and would maintain this ratio once she reached that goal. Totally admirable intention, for sure (if only viewed from the lens of strict equality). But I’m sure the 90% of applicants that were male wouldn’t see…

> STEM is 100% historically discriminatory to women

So that women prefer to pick other fields is STEM's fault?

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by notrealme1234 »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #153
notrealme1234 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

Couldn't you sue for damage after that? It seems like you got a great damage and it was proven in court that it's been caused by a lie

Yes, in civil court. The DA office won't take on false accusations charges. Edit: I could sue her, but nothing will come of it, she's completely broke, alone and live rent free taking care of old lady with dementia. And as of me, idk, never held grudge or wanted any vengeance upon anyone, it's easier to just cut ties, and never be associated with her

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by csomar »

deaddodo wrote: post #154
kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

I worked at a company a few years back where the hiring manager for the engineering and product teams proudly exclaimed that she would actively go against hiring a man, until the teams were at minimum 50% women and would maintain this ratio once she reached that goal. Totally admirable intention, for sure (if only viewed from the lens of strict equality). But I’m sure the 90% of applicants that were male wouldn’t see…

> STEM is 100% historically discriminatory to women

Is this a Western/US thing? Woman STEM graduates outnumber man in a number of countries. Mine and Iran for example but most Muslim countries have strong woman numbers.

I don't think STEM in the west is discriminatory to women, out of the blue. It can't be more discriminatory than Iran? Unless, there is data and research that suggests otherwise.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by JenrHywy »

lelanthran wrote: post #148
JenrHywy wrote: post #5

> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.

> I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this. "From each according to his ability to each according to his need" is not capitalism. "Capitalism" most certainly doesn't value equality or diversity.

Yeah, that's kinda of my point. Google is a incredibly successful capitalistic entity, but is punishing an employee for being biased in favor of ability. Favoring ability is rather core to capitalism.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by notrealme1234 »

geysersam wrote: post #160
notrealme1234 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

Why would a bank care if someone once accused you of a crime?

Because those type of crime considered as crime of moral turpitude and it's way easy to throw you under a bus than to have anything to do with you, probably mostly social aspect of it, and hight risk of repetition. Even with name cleared, it's easier to just avoid

Edit: Don't usually wrap other people into this type of issues. But look at case of Justin Roiland, he was only charged, not even pre-trial and everyone from job to friends turned back on him (I don't judge he might or might not be guilty). But once you publicly accused you are guilty even if you proven innocent

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