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Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

hardware2win wrote: post #27
dustedcodes wrote: post #18

Azure is the most developer hostile cloud environment. I have zero sympathy for people being affected by this because if you voluntarily use Azure then this is what you deserve. Sorry for being so miserable, but Azure has given me soooo much grief over the last 10 years that I'm just completely done with this shitshow of a platform.

Ive used gcp and ive been billed like 10% of minimal wage for setting GCPs demo with like 7 very simple microservices (i dont remember exactly) 4 times and every of them was running like 5 minutes after being deployed and then project was killed Shit is expensive as hell For the same money I could rent some weak linux box for a year Or something decent for a month Edit 10ms https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/micr…

This is one of the single most comprehensively intense demo projects I've ever seen. I did a multi day AWS Data Lab for work once and it wasn't this comprehensive.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by teh_klev »

ibejoeb wrote: post #90
dsign wrote: post #34

This makes you wonder if some centralization patterns, i.e. Azure AD, are not a national security problem?

Azure AD is a nightmare. I don't know how many of you sign in to multiple tenants in the console, but it generally involves buying a new computer.

> I don't know how many of you sign in to multiple tenants in the console, but it generally involves buying a new computer.

This made me laugh out loud. I'm working in a multi-tenant, multi-subscription environment with Azure AD just now. MS force you to use 2FA and I picked the wrong 2FA app.

Now it's completely and utterly comical trying to work out which generated 2FA auth code I need to key in when auth'ing in Visual Studio because there are absolutely no visual cues as to which subscription it's trying to authenticate to. You can't tell VS that "I'm only interested in auth'ing to this particular subscription". Now it prompts me for almost every subscription we use and it's a whack-a-mole experience. They really need to fix the UI/UX in VS for this.

Of course when it comes to mandatory password change time I have to go through this pain all over again.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by VyseofArcadia »

NKosmatos wrote: post #11

What's the point of having a status page if it doesn't indicate the issues? https://status.azure.com/en-us/status Azure, Teams, Outlook are almost down from Greece and Germany, and their status page shows that everything is fine :-)

When anything on that page turns not-green, there are news stories about it. Not positive ones. So exec approval is needed, because the decision to flip something on that page is ultimately the decision to cause stories negative to MS to be published. The exec has to weigh whether pissing off the customers (by failing to acknowledge reality) is worth the bad press and SLA fallout.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by ridgered4 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #127
tenplusfive wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luckily Microsoft also provides a service for that: Safelinks https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/off... Also a personal favorite of mine: http://microsft.com (not entirely sure if its just to prevent typosquatting or if this is actually used in some products)

microsft.com was used specifically for telemetry to bypass web proxy blocks for *.microsoft.com put in by administrators of secure networks. I know this because I was one of those admins trying to plug the leaks. Windows 10 + Office uses 200+ domains just for Microsoft stuff, of which something like 120 are for telemetry.

And I imagine they add new domains with updates all the time.

At home I was trying to avoid random reboots from updates in a full proof way in a Windows VM that ran long processing tasks. I determined the only reasonable course of action was to remove all internet access. Stamping out the massive list of changing domains (and hard coded ip addresses?) would just be to much work that I know I would never keep up with.

A white list might work.

I mused that you could have a constantly updating Windows machine and monitor all of its connections, adding them to a block list on an external firewall but in addition to being complex to setup I bet it wouldn't even catch everything.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by nikau »

867-5309 wrote: post #124
edf13 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's updated now - updates for service outages at this level generally need signoff form someone higher up the chain

or, they could be automated and transparent

Then some group scrapes the uptime of their competitors page and reports that "competitor is x times more reliable than transparent co"

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by Moissanite »

ibejoeb wrote: post #90
dsign wrote: post #34

This makes you wonder if some centralization patterns, i.e. Azure AD, are not a national security problem?

Azure AD is a nightmare. I don't know how many of you sign in to multiple tenants in the console, but it generally involves buying a new computer.

YES. I have the dubious honor of needing to use at least 4 different Teams tenants over the course of a week and it is enough to make me want to pitch my computer into the sea. App, browser, private browser - doesn't seem to matter. When I try to sign in, Microsoft will pick one of the tenants seemingly at random, regardless of what URL I use, and try to sign me in - of course, since there is usually no visual cue as to which tenant I'm looking at, I just put in a password and pray.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by StreamBright »

dustedcodes wrote: post #25
StreamBright wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the people who work for companies use Azure and were not involved in the decision?

They all have little hair left on their heads and I feel somewhat sorry for them.

You can say that about 50% of the tools used by it people.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by PenguinCoder »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #163
NKosmatos wrote: post #11

What's the point of having a status page if it doesn't indicate the issues? https://status.azure.com/en-us/status Azure, Teams, Outlook are almost down from Greece and Germany, and their status page shows that everything is fine :-)

When anything on that page turns not-green, there are news stories about it. Not positive ones. So exec approval is needed, because the decision to flip something on that page is ultimately the decision to cause stories negative to MS to be published. The exec has to weigh whether pissing off the customers (by failing to acknowledge reality) is worth the bad press and SLA fallout.

Which means it's not a status page any more. Defeating the supposed purpose.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by ibejoeb »

herio wrote: post #155
ibejoeb wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure AD is a nightmare. I don't know how many of you sign in to multiple tenants in the console, but it generally involves buying a new computer.

Firefox Multi-Account Containers extension. I couldn't live without it.

I use it, but since the azure portal uses the uri fragment, it still requires constructing the correct url in the correct container. One mistaken url will obliterate the container, and restoring it requires delete windowsazure.com, microsoftonline.com, portal.azure.com, and another one that I can't remember right now.

You'd really have to try to make it so screwy.

It kind of a shame. Like most things, Azure was better when it was smaller. I loved the first version of functions.

Re: Microsoft Azure Outage

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Post by alkonaut »

Wouldn't it be quite simple to set up an unofficial status page that just pings some relevant services and if they have a disastrous outage at least, it shows it?

Because I think it's clear that their status page is useless and "manual".

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