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WTF with high school questions?

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Re: WTF with high school questions?

#161

Shopify has an initial round with recruiter called "Life Story interview". You basically start from the beginning, talking about your high school experience, what did you like there and what did you study, your childhood hobbies ...

I wouldn't be too upset with that if it was time bounded to 2 minutes within a standard 30 min recruiter call.

it was around 45 minutes

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#162
post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Would of" is just is a misspelling of "would've".

Irregardless of that fact, if enough people misuse a word or grammatical construct long enough, it becomes de facto correct

> Irregardless

I see what you did there. And you’re right, but “would have” is not there yet, it’s just a common mistake like swapping your/you’re.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

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post #6

Related: This was the first step in the interview process at Canonical – I withdrew (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30735678

They really do want the people that will crawl through broken glass for them. The whole tech industry is insane. Can we please go back to: I give you work, you give me money. And if you want passion then I want equity .

So work for a place that gives out equity? Maybe I'm getting a totally different view of offers to engineers (at non-Canonical companies) than you are, but most of mine have contained passion-inducing amounts of equity - if you believe in the 409A. Which you can't, until you can.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#164
post #85

I went to High School in the 1980s. I think I did okay in those classes, but I fail to see how something that happened more than 30 years ago would be relevant for hiring purposes in the 2020s.

They may not be interested in applicants for which that was already 30 years ago. (Their loss, of course.)

"Tell me you're engaging in age discrimination without telling me you're engaging in age discrimination..."

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#165
post #6

Related: This was the first step in the interview process at Canonical – I withdrew (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30735678

It seems they are building a monoculture of people who have been nerds uniformely throughout their life. No room for experimentation here, lads.

Good for them. The nerds who have dared to live, the misfits, and just about anyone else who finds that whole spiel atrocious will go somewhere else.

Fuck that noise!

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#166
post #113

This basically means: You need to be young; older people should not apply. Being of an older age is not a protected class, so they are able to do this.

In the United States, this is absolutely not true. > The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) forbids age discrimination against people who are age 40 or older. It does not protect workers under the age of 40, although some states have laws that protect younger workers from age discrimination. It is not illegal for an employer or other covered entity to favor an older worker over a younger one, even if both wo…

So this might be a good case for some lawyer: this question and email follow up definitely make unreasonable barrier for somebody who finished high school 40+ years ago.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#167

> I got kicked out of AP English for insubordination in high school. The difference between my high-school performance in English classes and professional accomplishments as a writer is vast Ironically, if I was a hiring manager I would much rather care about your history of insubordination than your self-ascribed writing skills.

As a hiring manager, I’d be _more_ interested in hiring the person after hearing this. Especially if the reason they were insubordinate made sense!

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#168
post #71

Shopify has an initial round with recruiter called "Life Story interview". You basically start from the beginning, talking about your high school experience, what did you like there and what did you study, your childhood hobbies ...

This seems strange for a middle aged candidate, what are they looking for here? Communication skills? I wanna believe most people would pass unless they said their childhood hobbies are torturing animals and setting fires. But I have no idea.

"My high school career was defined by the discovery in my early teens that I had been raised in an obscure Jesus People offshoot cult, followed by a several year process of distancing and extricating myself from this environment without excessively antagonizing my family.

Coding was as much a stimulating intellectual challenge as it was a pretext for gradually increasing the time I spent away from both home and my customary social obligations, down at the library's computer lab."

your move, interviewer.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#169

At $job-4 I had the following exchange with HR. HR: Our records are incomplete, please provide a copy of your degree and transcript. Me: I don't have a degree. HR: We only hire people with degrees! Me: Well I have a contract and get paid so... HR: What is the highest education level you've achieved? Me: I finished high school 20 years ago. HR: Great, please provide a copy of your certificate and transcript. I ignored…

Seems like an ideal job for ChatGPT?...

A tool I hate, surpassed by my hate for mindless sheep following corporate red tape and scripts. Something something fire with fire. Maybe there are positive uses for chatGPT after all, reducing mundanity for all.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on the process, Canonical is the choosiest beggar I've bothered to apply to in the tech world. It was quite obvious to me I would be rejected, as the form is much more focused on "things that look good on paper" rather than "what this person can do", e.g. asking for your GPA. This presumably reflects the internal culture which leads to a history of user-hostile decisions: snap, Unity, that Amazon fiasco. They p…

> the form is much more focused on "things that look good on paper" What more could you ask for from a form?

I think you're conflating "how should one answer the questions on a form" with "how should the form be written"?
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