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Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

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post #66

I wanted to close my Paypal account just now and they have very dark patterns going on. I wanted to send the remainder of my balance to my bank account, in order to do so I had to couple my bank account. It directly presented me with the info that if I were to couple the account, Paypal will have 90 days of access to my balance and all my transactions. How about no. Luckily there was a link on the bottom “link it in…

PayPal are the original pioneers of dark UI patterns and are always at the cutting edge of new techniques to get their users to accidentally give them money.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#162
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're in Europe, I can recommend N26. They have a bank card that functions as a "credit card". Only you need to have a balance on it or the transactions won't go through, because the account is charged instantly.

do not ever use N26 for anything else than a credit card though, don't have your main account with them, they lock accounts without giving a (concrete) reason and are then unreachable.

It’s not a credit card. It’s just a debit or prepaid programme with Visa or MasterCard.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#163
post #56

Guess I won't be able to sponsor anyone anymore. I guess as a US based company they are expecting everyone to just have a credit card.

You could use something like https://privacy.com/. In fact, I’ve been using a Privacy credit card (connected directly to my bank account) for GitHub sponsors since I signed up.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#164
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

Yeah, I've sold over $1M worth of stuff on eBay since 2011 and have mostly good things to say about them. Much better support than eBay or Amazon, at least for merchants, and the few times I've needed them as a customer they've helped me out. Even one time when I was socially engineered into ticking the "item received" when I hadn't received the item, they helped me get a refund. I think a lot of the bad stories you…

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Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#165
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

Sure, I buy things through PayPal a lot. It’s purely out of convenience. It saves me the steps of entering in my address and credit card info when buying something online. If the checkout page offers Apple Pay or Stripe, I’ll use those instead, because they’re even easier. I’ve never had any problems with any of these payment services. I also like that both PayPal and Apple provide a centralized UI where I can revoke…

[...] Apple provide a centralized UI where I can revoke payment authorization for subscriptions [...]

That's only a thing for Apple in-app subscribtions though, not for Apple Pay, right?

Supposedly there is a new management UI for recurring payments at supported merchants/PSPs, but I haven't encountered it in the wild yet:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213041

https://developer.apple.com/apple-pay/merchant-tokens/

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#166
post #88

We hear a lot from people who have had a bad experience using PayPal. But is there anyone who has had a good experience, either as a merchant, or as a customer?

Even though sometimes using Paypal causes me to lose "reward" points, I do use quite a bit. For things like annual domain renewal - it is a life saver. I have had my domain expire far too many times with Credit Cards.

Can't you use rewards credit cards at practically all PayPal-accepting merchants?

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#167
post #56

Guess I won't be able to sponsor anyone anymore. I guess as a US based company they are expecting everyone to just have a credit card.

You could use something like https://privacy.com/ . In fact, I’ve been using a Privacy credit card (connected directly to my bank account) for GitHub sponsors since I signed up.

International network branded credit or debit cards are very common, but still far from ubiquitous, globally speaking.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US (and GitHub is a US-designed site) "credit card" is used to generically refer to any payment card, whether it's a credit card, a debit card, a pre-paid universal payment card (not a gift card, but a prepaid Visa or MasterCard or similar).

By you, maybe. The gas station down the street from me, due to fraud, has to make an distinction between credit and debit cards because it doesn't accept credit cards.

That's almost certainly a pretext (credit cards are more expensive) – or they have ancient card processing hardware.

The fraud liability situation is the same for credit and debit cards (i.e. the merchant is not liable for lost/stolen fraud) as long as the terminal has a chip reader.

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#169

More warning would have been ideal, but perhaps it's a security issue. Or a business negotiation issue. It's apparently something they don't want to tell us about, and are in a (relative to usual deprecation) hurry about. I bet a lot of sponsorship dollars will be lost when people do not update. I wonder if this will effect non-US donors especially. In general, I'm pretty sure paypal is accessible to more people than…

https://twitter.com/github/status/1346626296219099136

Re: GitHub Sponsors will stop supporting PayPal

#170

Anyone know why GitHub has made this decision?

I would speculate that since GH covers fees for sponsorship, they've decided Paypal's fees are too steep

Seems odd to drop support for that at such a short notice; it's not like these fees are new, right?
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