Always has done. Keep your music and any music streaming service as far away from each other as you can.
Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions
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Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll explain my POV. Getting Linux setup the way u want is work, but at least you can set it up the way you want. With macOS for example there are plenty of things that should be trivial do to on a computer that are made impossible or extremely difficult because the bean counters at apple want it that way. That type of thing is just an affront to me. Another way of putting it would be macos is designed to do what app…
And that’s fine. For my needs, I can’t think of anything my Linux desktop does that my Mac cannot. Why is it so hard, to the point of being mystifying, to understand that others have a different opinion?
Your attitude is reasonable for non computer expert. Not someone who has to work with computers every day. It's mystifying to me to see that attitude in computer experts, programmers etc. It'd be like an expert 5 star chef eating mcdonalds for dinner every day, or an experienced car mechanic using a childs set of tools.
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They don’t change your files. iTunes / Apple Music match your with their catalog and basically flip a flag that says this song is in your library. If a song is in your library you can download the file on other devices, same as if you purchased the song from them. If I download the song from iTunes via Match it’s a DRM-ed version because they don’t upload files that match the music catalog so there’s no original to d…
I can guarantee you that they either currently do change your files, or did at some point in the past. My entire catalogue of music imported from physical CDs was switched to different files, with different metadata and all (overriding my manual classification), and sometimes replacing uncensored versions with radio-safe versions, etc, sometime after 2010. This caused me to stop buying music altogether.
This was my experience with early versions of apple music, i had to restore from backup. I will never trust it
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The media is dirt cheap, but doing the backup is fraught. I think only Time Machine actually "solved" that usability problem and frankly kept me on Apple products longer than I would otherwise have endured. I still don't know the right way to backup a Windows 10 machine that doesn't involve hours of research, testing, tradeoffs and probably $$$.
borg, restic, synology, windows also has built in functionality too.
Yeah, this is really what I'm talking about. The comment was about why everyone doesn't do backup. I contend it's because most people aren't using Macs, because if they were, there is one obvious, almost foolproof option that covers 95% of end-user requirements, and that you don't need to think about.
I mean the system restore process is embarrassingly good (or was when I left the ecosystem): replace dead HDD, boot off installation media, attach the TM drive and say "yes please" when it asks you if you want to restore everything. The options you list are aimed at the "power user" and burdens them accordingly.
Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions
#165I wonder if there's a way to exploit this to get free music out of apple...
Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions
#166I have curated local music library in Music app, with many rare recordings and versions that does no exist in streaming anywhere. I also subscribe to Apple Music. This works fine. The only gripe I have is I can't make playlists in Apple Music when its setup like this. I don't care much though because I don't use streaming like that. If files are important to you, keep a backup, outside of cloud, or in another vendors…
"If files are important to you, keep a backup, outside of cloud, or in another vendors cloud."
Agreed.
Broadly speaking, I don't think of my music collection as critical data ... and yet, when I examine the time, care and energy I have expended ripping CDs, naming and cataloging these files they are probably the single largest data input job I have ever taken part in.
So with that in mind I do, indeed, treat it as critical data and have it properly backed up.
"If files are important to you ..."
There is this UI element in itunes / apple music where you can choose what to arrange music by:
https://ipodiphoneitunestutorials.com/iTunesTutorials/i/img8...
... and note that "filename" is not in that huge, comprehensive list.
That tells you everything you need to know.
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#167Old timer here..I learned ages ago if it's not backed up on a portable drive, then you're willing/going to lose it someday. (Of course, in the beginning I used floppies and then CD/DVDs when they became available.) Now a days I download legal MP3's or rip my purchased CDs. ALL of these files are backed up on Portable drive. Hate to say it, but there isn't a company on earth that thinks we consumers actually own anyth…
"... there isn't a company on earth that thinks we consumers actually own anything. As for cloud storage, those who trust it haven't been screwed yet, and yes, they think whatever you store there belongs to them."
I know of at least one company - that thinks you own your own files.
It's actually a cloud storage company.
21 years and not one person screwed.
Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions
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And that’s fine. For my needs, I can’t think of anything my Linux desktop does that my Mac cannot. Why is it so hard, to the point of being mystifying, to understand that others have a different opinion?
Your attitude is reasonable for non computer expert. Not someone who has to work with computers every day. It's mystifying to me to see that attitude in computer experts, programmers etc. It'd be like an expert 5 star chef eating mcdonalds for dinner every day, or an experienced car mechanic using a childs set of tools.
I think car mechanics are the perfect analogy. Most of the ones I know have rather boring daily drivers because they value reliability and don’t always want to be tinkering. They do have very interesting project vehicles though.
You’re quite condescending and smug. Maybe you should try to understand why other people might have different priorities than you instead of being judgmental, seeking to understand is generally a good skill.
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#169It's funny people are still learning this, but I guess some are younger. I have hundreds of CDs I started buying about 1992 or 1993 and did a big project at one point making MP3s and early on in the iTunes/iPod era they found their way into iTunes. I started playing around with MP3 Layer 2 and then Layer 3 around 1995-1996, but at that time it was still prohibitive to try and store your whole collection as hard drive…
Vinyl isn't making a comeback because of mastering or fidelity issues. It's making a comeback because people like the ritual of putting a disc on a platter and having to focus on listening to it. It's a different form of engagement with the music than the endless, pre-curated stream of singles that are the default way of using streaming services.
I consider myself an audiophile and I'm really interested in the better mastering, but I'm driven crazy by the static, clicks, crackles and pops of records.
Sometimes I download digital conversions of records but I never end up listening to them because I get too annoyed by any static.
So I just try to find the best digital copy that I can actually enjoy, even if the brickwalling pisses me off.
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#170People seem surprised by this. Have a cursory read of the terms and conditions - you're an Apple hostage, at their mercy.
Why do people accept this?
There's a million different ways around it, but none of them involve accepting Apple and their bullshit.
I buy CDs and rip them to flac, or buy non-DRM encumbered files and sync my music to my own storage.