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Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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This is the real new feature. App developers don't want to go choose a competitive price in every one of 174 locales. But they also don't want to be pricing too high or low for what the local population can afford/is willing to pay. Let apple do the fancy machine learning to figure out optimal translation tables for each locale to maximize revenue.

Why isn't that presented as an option then, rather than mandated? I could want to do my own testing

It is an option.

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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This means that for foreign customers of yours, your product will have constantly fluctuating price. I personally don't find that desirable. Also, there is some considerations to be made for purchasing power especially for items like apps. $1 might be trivial in the US, but it may not be so in a third world country.

They could offer stickiness settings, like only change the price once the FX rate has moved 10%.

Yes, they can have a set of rules to set the prices. But then it’s not that different from the current system, which really is not problematic in the first place. I know this is the place for pedantic nit picking, but the fact that prices have some granularity is very much a non-issue.

In any case, actually probably have such rules, just not public. I am sure they have sales people being paid full time to agonise over such issues.

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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We changed the URL from https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/12/apple-announces-bigge... to a third party article I just googled. If there's a better third-party article, we can change it again.

Yes, HN has the rule "*Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter" (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), but corporate press releases are so awful to read that I increasingly think we need to make them an exception.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

All the more so because they have a strong incentive to bury the lede (I mean in general—not saying that about this announcement), and while third-party sites have other crap incentives, like sensationalism and clickbait, they at least don't do that.

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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No, not every good in the world is priced in US dollars and presented as a random number that changes every day

pretty much every good is sold on ebay

I never buy anything in dollars on eBay. Sterling, sometimes, but it’s euros 99% of the time.

Prices on eBay actually look like something a human would choose. On AliExpress on the other hand the prices are all over the place, with really odd numbers of cents, which I assume comes from automatic conversion from whatever currency they initially priced it in (not necessarily dollars at that point).

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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And then there are gas stations, infamous for taking it another step and including another tenth of a penny.

I am old enough that when I was a kid in the UK there was still such a thing as a halfpenny (pronounced: ha'penny). Although please note: I am not that old; this was ½p - half a 'new penny', i.e. 1/200 of a pound sterling, and not to be confused with the old ½d, half of an old penny, which was 1/480 of a pound (or two farthings). Predecimal currency was well before my time. By over half a decade, in fact. But anyway,…

Just to add a data point about the pronunciation; the way you've written it leads me to read it as "har-penny", which I imagine is valid, however we pronounced it in my family as "hay-penny".

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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I don't agree with most of what Musk does; but if this is the kind of innovation that requires a team of highly compensated tech employees and warrants a press release; something is actually, seriously wrong with efficiency in companies like Apple, and maybe he's actually right that Twitter, or many companies, could run better on far fewer employees.

EU and US has already told Musk that his content moderation, trust/safety, compliance teams are woefully inadequate and would need to be significantly increased to comply with existing decrees and regulations. Also whilst some employees may find it fun and others on H1B have no choice but working 80+ hours is not sustainable. So before making conclusions about whether Twitter is some innovative new approach to headco…

Since when does the US have regulations about content moderation?

> significantly increased to comply with existing decrees and regulations.

What decrees and regulations? If the US wanted stuff to be illegal, make it illegal. You seem to be implying that Twitter should be a substitute government.

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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Apple uses price points rather than having developers explicitly specify prices because they're currency-independent: you specify a price point and Apple chooses appropriate prices for each of the ~175 different storefronts where your app could be available. Apple then periodically adjusts the international prices as exchange rates fluctuate, to keep them in parity with the US prices at the same tiers. The alternativ…

You would think a company like Apple could easily build a system that updated exchange rates daily and could do the simple math on any price. Having "price points" seems arbitrarily and stupid.

They could do that, but then users in some countries would have to pay 0.693 of their local currency or whatever. Why should the US be the only country that gets friendly looking prices?

Re: Apple announces ‘upgrade’ to App Store pricing, adding 700 new price points

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Will this solve the issue that the $49.99 tier equals to a 59.99 EUR price? I get a ton of messages every week by would-be Euro customers complaining why the fuck I am fleecing them with a 59.99 EUR price when the US price is $49.99 and the exchange rate is currently roughly 1:1.

The EUR price includes VAT, Americans have this odd thing of quoting prices without tax which tends to be illegal elesewhere. OK the US does not have a sales type tax on digital goods,

Depends on the location. Sales taxes are determined at the state, county and municipal level and apply to different things in different places (so, for example, Illinois does not charge sales tax on magazines, but California does, and the tax rate on a single donut may be higher than the tax rate on a dozen donuts (prepared food vs groceries).
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