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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by Markoff »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #141
Markoff wrote: post #127

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I welcome this for change from far left woke crap dominating whole platform for years with any opposition against them silenced. In free platform you read crap from all sides, not just the one you like. But enjoy your new echo chamber outside Twitter. edit: for downvoters, yes, I'm aware this describes also majority of HN users and you just can't stand different opinion and try to silence it, thanks for proving me ri…

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the problem is you put all right wingers in same basket, while there is whole spectrum of people, but as others said, anything from center to right is nowadays automatically called alt-right or extreme/far right, there is only good left and then bad extreme (alt) right, nothing in between judging by MSM and big tech (with their 99% employees donating money to left, even in the most right wing company Oracle it was only 30% employees donating money to right, so it's not surprising why one group is so misrepresented in all social media owned by big tech until now where Twitter should be controlled by guy with right views (and for the record I can't stand Musk and I'm for instance for abortion choice (as in Europe, ofc not crazy time limits like killing baby which could live outside womb))

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by jsnell »

throw0101c wrote: post #150
jsnell wrote: post #119

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> He has principles and he's willing to put himself out there for them. He thinks that Twitter is despicable but will still continue to use it to promote his blog. That's not having principles and sticking to them. That's selling out for cheap, and coming up with a lame justification for it.

He's been writing his weblog since before Twitter existed: * https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/199x/ * https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/ He doesn't need (to use) Twitter to promote anything. If he was willing to sell out, cheaply or not, he would have kept his AWS job.

Of course he doesn't need to use Twitter to promote his blog. But it is what he is doing, as per the article:

> I’ll still use Twitter to post pointers to ongoing pieces because that benefits me, not Elon.

And that's exactly what makes it selling out for cheap. He doesn't need the traffic; it's not like it's providing his livelihood or anything. But just going by his actions, he still cares more about those hits than about his supposed principles.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by xtracto »

m-p-3 wrote: post #153
progrus wrote: post #17

The same people who lost their marbles over COVID/fear of death are now losing their marbles again over a private platform being raided & turned into a public square. I stopped listening to these people years ago. Good riddance.

It's not a public square when the opposite ideology is pushed aside and the rules applied arbitrarily, both left or right. It's never been a public square, it's just being polarized in the opposite direction.

It's a public square alright, the people that shout the loudest are the ones that end up being heard. People that want to engage in constructive nuanced argument are drowned by the noise of the loud extremists (from any ideology)

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by [deleted] »

rgbrenner wrote: post #55
progrus wrote: post #17

The same people who lost their marbles over COVID/fear of death are now losing their marbles again over a private platform being raided & turned into a public square. I stopped listening to these people years ago. Good riddance.

What’s the big deal? Isn’t this person free to choose where they spend their time? If they dont like Twitter they can leave. Isn’t that what freedom is all about? Seems to me that many on the right don’t actually care about freedom… but more about their ability to subject others to their ideas… apparently freedom is the right of republicans to force themselves on others and restrain their critics from leaving. What o…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by Kye »

winternett wrote: post #19

Elon bought twitter in hopes of turning it into his personal idea billboard, and also for it to serve as a promotional platform for people he wants to leverage. Even with a smaller audience, because of it's web presence, it does the job for him, even if it loses money in the short run. It does no good to express personal quitting on platforms like this, as they were never meant to serve unpopular, non-wealthy, and un…

>> "Elon bought twitter in hopes of turning it into his personal idea billboard, and also for it to serve as a promotional platform for people he wants to leverage. Even with a smaller audience, because of it's web presence, it does the job for him, even if it loses money in the short run."

He could have just set up a Pleroma instance for this and scaled it to hold all his fans for way less than $44B.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by taolegal »

theGnuMe wrote: post #157
taolegal wrote: post #110

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Do you have evidence of that? If so what is it? And what is the source and quality of that evidence?

Everyone recognizes that institutions have lost trust. They can vilify the people lacking confidence if they want, but it's practically universally recognized that it's happened in one form or another over the modern era (especially Nixon onward).

From just a cursory search: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1597/confidence-institutions.as...

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by taolegal »

boardwaalk wrote: post #124
taolegal wrote: post #107

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Tons of people on the left cheered on rand paul's neighbor when paul was violently attacked and seriously injured.

Please don’t do whataboutism. Your comment divides and derails the conversation and assumes the worst of the people here who might have a problem with Elon’s behavior (that they also want people to get assaulted because of their political views).

> to downplay the fact

We have no clue about Musk's intention here.

It's not whataboutism rather I know for a fact how certain people respond to left-wing violence and it's always either ignorance or very charitable interpretations.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by zimpenfish »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #80
dorkwood wrote: post #76

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I suppose it depends on what your end goal is. For example, I've disabled news notifications on my phone. I used to get pinged multiple times per day to be told that either someone had died in an accident, or was raped and murdered, or some other such thing. One might argue that I'm sticking my head in the sand and 'living in a bubble' by turning these off. But while I think it's beneficial to expose myself to ideas…

I'm only referring to those who build these complete echo chambers on social media. For relatively mentally stable adults it's good to know about and consider dissenting opinions, especially so if you publish your own opinions, like the author. I completely agree that a bit of head-in-the-sand can be quite good for mental health and happiness.

> it's good to know about and consider dissenting opinions

There's dissenting opinions like "I like team A" vs "I like team B" and then there's dissenting opinions like "I think LGBTQ+ people should have rights" vs "I think LGBTQ+ people should be rounded up / banned from public / have no rights".

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by haunter »

davidgerard wrote: post #146
MikusR wrote: post #142

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Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

you've never used twitter, have you

I do and it only shows tweets that I follow. Top right corner > change away from Home, don't show top tweets https://i.imgur.com/wl91ONj.png

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by haunter »

dorkwood wrote: post #148
MikusR wrote: post #142

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Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

That hasn't been true for a while. I regularly see tweets by people who have no connection to the accounts I follow. They'll often have accompanying tags like "Sports" or "Cryptocurrency" above their name, as if Twitter has decided I'm interested in these topics.

It only shows tweets that you follow if you opt-in that. Top right corner > change away from Home, don't show top tweets https://i.imgur.com/wl91ONj.png
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