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Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by Kye »

causi wrote: post #147
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developers of these things need to stop treating people swearing at them as a time to lecture them and instead realize that if someone is swearing at it then they’re probably not satisfied with how it’s functioning in the attempts before that.

Funny enough Google Assistant on Google Maps does this just fine. When it asks me if I wanted to navigate to the Pizza Hut that's five miles away or the one that's 38 miles away, it understands "the closest one, you stupid piece of crap" just fine.

I can see this being useful. There are multiple Krogers and Walmarts where I am. They vary greatly in quality and selection. Depending on where you are and what you want to get, you might not want the closest one.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

j_mo wrote: post #144
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #122

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I have no idea how things work under the hood, but this doesn't match my experience as a user. If I'm in the bedroom and ask to turn the lamp off, and phones are around, the phone screens sometimes lit up as they are listening to the command, but then only the bedroom Google Home actually executes it, while the phones turn their screen back off without saying anything.

Unfortunately I'm with the other guy. We have a Nest Mini in every room, and a Hub Max (only paid for 2, another 2 were free with Spotify and the Hub Max was an Instagram giveaway win). We have to whisper to the Hub Max in the kitchen, from 3 inches away, and the Minis in the dining room and living room often still hear. If I don't whisper, even the ones upstairs hear. Sometimes I get 2 timers for my cooking, sometim…

Jesus, they seem pretty sensitive to voice. Do they tell you not to be rude when you're having "adult time"?

They'd know. They'd know.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by FeepingCreature »

Joker_vD wrote: post #135
FeepingCreature wrote: post #102

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As Scott says in Weak Men Are Superweapons [1], a meme aimed against a specific, easily disliked subgroup is unavoidably an attack on the entire group by association. It is impossible to say "Karen, who is a woman, bad" without implying "women Karens, women bad." Or if there is a way to disentangle them, it certainly won't fit in a meme. [1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/12/weak-men-are-superweap...

> a meme aimed against a specific, easily disliked subgroup is unavoidably an attack on the entire group by association. So that comment, by attacking a specific, easily disliked subgroup of memes is undeniably an attack on all of the memes by association. Or am I applying this wrong?

It's not a meme in the same sense though. If this was a short punchy quote that implied that certain memes were bad, then yes.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by 83457 »

Contact forms for US Senators and Representatives often have surprising issues like this.

Reserved words in SQL sometimes get blocked as well as things like too many singles quotes or an odd number of single quotes. I've seen the name "Walter" blocked on many forms over the years.

The worst part is that the sender just gets sent to a security or generic page with no idea why, often losing the message they created.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by marcyb5st »

themaninthedark wrote: post #138
marcyb5st wrote: post #104

On Swissair website there was a time where I couldn't purchase tickets because my name contains the name of a musical instrument. So out there there are people that did worse than that in my personal experience :(

Wait, what? I'm trying to figure out why that would exist but the only thing I can think of is that people were buying a ticket for their instruments rather then checking them and the airline wanted to try and stop the practice.

I was shocked as well, and couldn't come up with an explanation either. My name is Marcello and the problem was the `cello` substring (an Italian name, but being Italian an official language in Switzerland they should have though about that). They removed it luckily!

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by kevincox »

martyvis wrote: post #154
causi wrote: post #84

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Yep. Echoes also don't make you pause after the wake word, so you can actually talk to it naturally. Also, when you tell them to shut up they shut up . The way Google Homes throw a tantrum when you're rude to them will make you want to reach through the cable line and strangle the arrogant son of a bitch who OK'd something that pointlessly infuriating.

Google removed the need to pause after saying the wake word years ago. (Possibly you haven't disabled the acknowledgement beep)

IIRC it always worked without the pause. Just the beep was picked up by the microphone and made the recognition for that word or two much worse. It would clearly react to things said before the beep.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by bitpow »

darth_aardvark wrote: post #141
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developers of these things need to stop treating people swearing at them as a time to lecture them and instead realize that if someone is swearing at it then they’re probably not satisfied with how it’s functioning in the attempts before that.

Alexa backend treats user swearing the same way it treats a repeated command or other negative feedback.

And how is that?

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by lultimouomo »

withinboredom wrote: post #109
causi wrote: post #81

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Considering how warm Google Homes stay even when idle I seriously doubt the main processor is ever going to sleep.

Heat is dissipated when electricity goes unused too (usually by dumping it in some load resistor) so it’s possible the extra electricity is just generating heat, waiting to go to the processor. I’d lol if they have 5v coming in, and they’re stepping it down to 3.3v for the wake word processor (hence heat) while the main processor runs at 5v.

I guess that's why laptops batteries last exactly the same whether the computer is idling or not. Also, the reason they get very hot when you're not doing anything CPU intensive - it's all that unused electricity going to the dump load resistor!

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

darth_aardvark wrote: post #141
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developers of these things need to stop treating people swearing at them as a time to lecture them and instead realize that if someone is swearing at it then they’re probably not satisfied with how it’s functioning in the attempts before that.

Alexa backend treats user swearing the same way it treats a repeated command or other negative feedback.

Glad someone is, been trying to figure out if there was a command in Siri to communicate I'm dissatisfied with how its wasting my time with the past query attempts, no luck so far although I've basically given up using the thing at all at this point.

The amount of times where I would ask 3 times and have to do the task myself anyway were too often.

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