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Oof. That boot.
He’s only the most successful entrepreneur alive. But sure visa holders need their beauty sleep. Seriously you can’t stay up to 1am to have the company of the worlds richest person? What an opportunity to learn. This thread is totally nuts
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> What an opportunity to learn I suspect you've never been around Musk or people of Musk's class. What could you possibly learn that would materially improve anything in your life other than "you get to keep your job (for now)"? Or is it just curiosity you want to satisfy?
His habits. You can’t regularly work 80 hour weeks without packing a few tricks. You can’t build multiple billion dollar companies without knowing something others don’t. Often I find when talking to successful people, they’ll make a revealing offhand comment that’s pure gold and can in fact change your life - if you’re paying attention. An example might be Einstein and Steve Jobs having a full wardrobe of duplicates…
And this “same outfit” bullshit is just propaganda for making you believe that you are also a temporarily embarrassed billionaire and you actually are part of this wealthy group, when in fact you are further away from them then from some poor gal in Thailand working for a dollar a week. People are not machine, you can probably only productively work 3 hours a day.
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and what do I gain by giving my soul to the company?
Maybe a lot of you are willing to take a chance with some risk and some effort. Maybe you get nothing. I know some really wealthy people who are only wealthy because they took a little risk. I know some people who could be wealthy too if they took the same leap, but didn’t and they aren’t. Perhaps they felt like you do…. It all comes down to choices. These people sticking at Twitter are making their choice. Others le…
The best you can hope for is a decent bonus, but that is not life altering in any way and I don’t think it is worth the stress of working under an unstable idiot drama queen some insane hours that may or may not get paid, over at.. the million other IT jobs. Sure, taking risks may be beneficial, but you ain’t jumping down a hill just because it is risky, you have to hope for something.
I don't think the time of day matters much. I've been in the office at that time of the day a number of times. As long as it's only an occasional thing it's fine.
Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…
And no H-1B is not the reason. You can find new jobs under an H-1B. You're not restricted to a single company and can change companies.
As the comment says, it would be interesting to interact with the richest person on earth. Short of that, I have no idea why anyone would think it's fun or anything to be in that atmosphere. He could change direction on a whim and make you redundant in a second.
I guess different people want different things, but I would have flown across the country to be in that room at 1am. A startup sized team working on a platform with twitters scale for a boss with capital and a willingness to consider new ideas? Once in a lifetime opportunity.
As the comment says, it would be interesting to interact with the richest person on earth. Short of that, I have no idea why anyone would think it's fun or anything to be in that atmosphere. He could change direction on a whim and make you redundant in a second.
If you want to know why the people look like they’re having a fun time, watch The Death of Stalin
I am amazed by how polarizing this seems to be. Some of my best memories are from previous startups with this exact 1am energy. This is how shared mental models are built, shit gets done, and shared suffering cements lifelong bonds.
Twitter isn't a startup. The folks in this picture don't have the same risk/reward as their counterparts at a startup would.
Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…
There is a more simple explanation: that these are the folks who actually want to go "hardcore" and build to some actual vision.