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Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by tgv »

How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it's not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but:

* Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop.

No, it doesn't.

* Surprising lack of apps in the store

Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I'm typing this in Firefox. I've got Teams running, and Zoom. There really is more than one way to install an app.

* The stupid amount of app icons in the "tray" bar. Not collapsible, not hideable.

What does that mean? There's no tray bar. Is it the menu? Is it the Dock? In both cases, it's untrue, or the writer means something else.

* No easy way to open a path in Finder

Cmd-shift-G or Go > Go to folder isn't easy enough? What's KDE's super brilliant solution?

* Finder: no side by side view for easily moving stuff between unrelated folders/paths

Can't open two windows?

And even if all were true, it misses so many other points, it's embarrassing. What OP means is: I've got a fixed workflow, and now I have to learn a few new shortcuts.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by jklinger410 »

I've been using computers since Windows 95 and I personally find KDE to be the most confusing and broken DE that I've tried.

Simply try to edit/move the bottom bar in edit mode, or change the global theme, and watch it fall apart.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by lampe3 »

sofixa wrote: post #136
lampe3 wrote: post #20

To be honest I stopped caring what OS I'm running as long as it is not windows. I have a terminal open 99% of the time and I almost never open finder or Gnome Files. pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. VS Code is basically the same on every system. Gnome/KDE/MacOS all of them have there pros and cons. Right now what wins for me is the apple silicon. I can develop stuff with…

> pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. As long as you don't care about the fact that brew is slow as hell, or can't actually handle versions and dependencies properly (installed `gpg` the other day, it updated Python and SQLite and 50 other packages to the latest version, regardless of major or minor), yeah, it's a package manager. Kind of. It still boggles my mind Apple hav…

I try to not install specific version but always the latest.

Also to not install something that needs sudo.

On windows I used Scoop. I installed fonts through scoop and to update them I first needed to uninstall them and then install them again.

But sure in the end nothing is better then pacman with aur.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#164

Post by easygenes »

lampe3 wrote: post #109
easygenes wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to look at the Lenovo X13s Snapdragon [1]. People have, with some unofficial engagement from Lenovo's Linux technical lead, gotten Linux running on it [2][3]. It is basically a laptop version of the Microsoft ARM Developer Kit, and was released early this year. 1: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/thinkpad-x13s-(13-inch-snapdragon)/ 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/…

Yes I looked at that but the software support is not there yet. Also for the price the performance you get is questionable at best even compared to a m1. I'm also a burned child by the build quality in the last years by lenovo. My t480s was at best good. But not as good as a macbook or a asus zenbook

Yeah, the performance of the 8cx Gen3 is more compelling in a $600 box than a $1200 laptop, agreed. Would also like to see something with full, official Linux support that's at least M1 class.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#165

Post by sgloutnikov »

tgv wrote: post #161

How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it's not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but: * Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop. No, it doesn't. * Surprising lack of apps in the store Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I'm typing…

For moving files between folders tabs in Finder works fine, you don't even need a new window.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#166

Post by easygenes »

TheNorthman wrote: post #106
easygenes wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to look at the Lenovo X13s Snapdragon [1]. People have, with some unofficial engagement from Lenovo's Linux technical lead, gotten Linux running on it [2][3]. It is basically a laptop version of the Microsoft ARM Developer Kit, and was released early this year. 1: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/thinkpad-x13s-(13-inch-snapdragon)/ 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/…

How does the 8cx Gen 3 compare to the M2/M1 Pro/M1 Max? (this is a rhetorical question)

Not rhetorical answer: It's about 2/3 as fast as M1.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#167

Post by tgv »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #65

I agree. After using both for a long time, I have to say KDE is less painful and faster in operation. MacOS has a lot of inconsistent or weird keyboard shortcuts. There's no proper window management, HDMI volume cannot be controlled, can't launch apps like VSCode or Terminal using keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+ Alt + C and Ctrl + Alt + T. The shell takes like 2 seconds to load when opening terminal. Yes, MacOS is more…

You can always install Quicksilver. It's pretty handy. I've bound it to ctrl-alt-space, and F is enough to launch Firefox, M to launch Mail, I enough to launch iTerm, etc., without creating shortcuts or editing settings. And if you want to launch some application with overlapping initials, type one or two more characters. And it's free.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by lampe3 »

easygenes wrote: post #164
lampe3 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I looked at that but the software support is not there yet. Also for the price the performance you get is questionable at best even compared to a m1. I'm also a burned child by the build quality in the last years by lenovo. My t480s was at best good. But not as good as a macbook or a asus zenbook

Yeah, the performance of the 8cx Gen3 is more compelling in a $600 box than a $1200 laptop, agreed. Would also like to see something with full, official Linux support that's at least M1 class.

I would like to see something that is as fast as the M1 (Right now I'm on an M1 Max).

I also hope that Frame.work will release some day a good laptop with an good ARM chip.

But I think this is like 3 years away.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#169

Post by egypturnash »

jeswin wrote: post #67
splatcollision wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your legacy baggage is my favorite feature. I may not need any documents open for an app right now, but what about 5 minutes later? Why would I wait for photoshop to start up again just because I was doing something else for a bit. It’s called multitasking and there’s a ton of working memory these days to the point of rarely having to check, not like the legacy days you refer to.

> Why would I wait for photoshop to start up again just because I was doing something else for a bit. This is a part of what I was saying. Apps are cold-starting much faster today than it was back in the days of disk spindles. There are also ways to keep it hot, while not being active.

I am a professional artist who has been working with Adobe's tools since the turn of the century and let me assure you: Adobe's apps always take forever to cold-start. Always.

I recently got an M2 Air and Illustrator loads the fastest it ever has - I'm staring at the splash screen for all of five seconds before it's ready to get to work. Normally it's been more like 20-120 seconds for the past decade. I am quite sure Adobe will find a way to make their apps take several minutes to start up on the M2.

As a consequence, Illustrator cold-starts when I log in; the only time it stops running is if it crashes, or if I need to quit it to update plugins or the app itself. If I go off and do something else for a while it quietly gets swapped to disc by the system; the instant I switch back, it gets swapped into memory, ready to get back to work.

Re: KDE beats macOS

#170

Post by jasonlotito »

tgv wrote: post #161

How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it's not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but: * Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop. No, it doesn't. * Surprising lack of apps in the store Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I'm typing…

> Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop. > No, it doesn't.

How do you take a screenshot that saves the screenshot to a specific spot that isn't the Desktop and ALSO stores the screenshot in the clipboard?

cmd+shift+3/4 doesn't store the screenshot in the clipboard. It just stores in on the Desktop. You can click the preview and it will move it into the clipboard as well as save it.

The other method, that puts the screenshot directly into the clipboard with ctrl+cmd+shit+3/4 but it doesn't save the screenshot.

What's the single keyboard shortcut command to take a screenshot and have it saved to your machine as well as have it stored in your clipboard?

I'll enjoy watching people down vote learning and knowledge sharing.

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