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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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What a weird thing to say. I can evaluate any code. If it’s code I’m unfamiliar with it takes longer, and the result is more variable, but it’s far from impossible. It’s certainly more reliable than the evaluation of the person whose job depends on it being evaluated as correct.

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You don't have to evaluate other peoples code or something?

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> One former Tesla engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly describe the matter but was not involved, said Tesla engineers would have trouble capably assessing Twitter’s code. Distributed systems, the large-scale and spread-out network that Twitter is composed of, are not the automaker’s specialty, the person said. > The “idea of Elon being flanked by his Tesla engineers reviewing Twitter code is…

Tesla engineers don't just work on in-vehicle code though. The servers and systems needed to implement Tesla's telemetry and software updates would be in the same ballpark of expertise, albeit with much less scale and different requirements than Twitter. But Musk got started by confounding x.com/PayPal, which does have very similar engineering needs as Twitter. It's not like Musk is a newbie to this stuff, people pre…

What telemetry do cars send Tesla? The EDR system which stores all telemetry data is not suppose to leave the car.

https://edr.tesla.com/

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What hubris to think that your system is so complex that other engineers couldn't understand it.

Also what hubris of the Twitter engineers, who seem to be in this thread, thinking anything they built was that special. Your video player somehow managed to be worse than Reddit , the perennial joke of web dev. Not to mention “something went wrong” again and again, maybe by the 4th reload would a linked tweet actually show up for me. I’m on 25 gig symmetrical fiber with <10ms to my local AWS hub, FWIW

> Not to mention “something went wrong” again and again, maybe by the 4th reload would a linked tweet actually show up for me.

That seems like a purpose-built feature to punish non-Twitter users to induce them to sign up for Twitter and/or use the Twitter app instead of the web UI. It's not a bug but a misfeature.

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What hubris to think that your system is so complex that other engineers couldn't understand it.

The hubris is thinking Tesla engineers (who are offered worse pay and wlb relative to Twitter) are coding masters of every domain. I won't even snipe at their own software here. It takes a long time to onboard to a big mature infrastructure that is serving hundreds of millions of users for people moving from a similar company, even longer if your day job is whatever Tesla engineers are doing. And that's onboarding, n…

You don't need to be a "coding master of every domain" to recognize shit code.

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> One former Tesla engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly describe the matter but was not involved, said Tesla engineers would have trouble capably assessing Twitter’s code. Distributed systems, the large-scale and spread-out network that Twitter is composed of, are not the automaker’s specialty, the person said. > The “idea of Elon being flanked by his Tesla engineers reviewing Twitter code is…

What a weird thing to say. I can evaluate any code. If it’s code I’m unfamiliar with it takes longer, and the result is more variable, but it’s far from impossible. It’s certainly more reliable than the evaluation of the person whose job depends on it being evaluated as correct.

Off course you can have an opinion about any code. It will just not always be correct.

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I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

> Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work?

Eh, there are marketing synergies between Twitter and Tesla.

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Surprised how sceptical all the comments here are. Dick or not the guy has a talent for building companies

Yeah, the Musk haters are out in full force. Perhaps he simply paid them from his own pocket (eg consulting rate) when they were "off the clock" from their day-time job? Seems very logical to me.

It’s interesting to see technical people melt down and froth at the mouth like political hobbyists when some new piece of meat/news lands in their feed trough.

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> One former Tesla engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly describe the matter but was not involved, said Tesla engineers would have trouble capably assessing Twitter’s code. Distributed systems, the large-scale and spread-out network that Twitter is composed of, are not the automaker’s specialty, the person said. > The “idea of Elon being flanked by his Tesla engineers reviewing Twitter code is…

The primary reason enterprise distributed systems software are complicated is that most code is hidden behind teams of teams of teams of hundreds of mediocre people, not inherent complexity.

Heh, I’m still fairly confident that our 100 man software project would proceed much faster if the team was cut down to the best 6 people.

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You'd arguably have a case that Musk is not acting in the interest of Tesla and is using his Tesla position to enrich himself rather than the Tesla company. Exactly what the "CEO is supposed to serve shareholders" is all about.

The counter argument is that Tesla has created more shareholder value over the past few years than any other single company, and in fact more than a ton of whole market segments. I mean, investors know he's sort of a loon, this is hardly the weirdest thing he done[1], and they're still on board. And FWIW: if you really want to structure this in a shareholder-friendly way, Twitter can just pay Tesla a consulting fee.…

Making a bunch of money does not give you ethical credits you can spend later. He can probably get away with it though.

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> One former Tesla engineer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly describe the matter but was not involved, said Tesla engineers would have trouble capably assessing Twitter’s code. Distributed systems, the large-scale and spread-out network that Twitter is composed of, are not the automaker’s specialty, the person said. > The “idea of Elon being flanked by his Tesla engineers reviewing Twitter code is…

Did they bring the experts in autonomous vehicles?
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