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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I understand that he has been publicly combative with all the executives; but is it a practical to fire all those key executives right away?

Specially, do they not contain any specifically useful knowledge or experience that you should make an attempt at creating a collaborative transition?

Is this how these kinds of acquisitions of public companies happen? Isn’t this effectively freezing all significant activities for a significant ramp up time?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

> Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things.

Find Gwynne Chatwell for Twitter, and Bob's our uncle!

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I agree. I think he understands that, as indicated by https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728 That doesn't sound like someone burning Twitter to the ground. Also, many are acting like Musk has free rein in running the company. Yes and no. Beyond needing employees to actually run the thing, he also has loans to pay back ($13B!) and investors to maintain good relationships with. More on that here: https…

I'm very skeptical of the idea that Twitter can become a place where people discuss things with civility. It seems like the mechanics of the conversation encourage outrage.

If that were really their goal, theoretically they could be. For instance, this forum has features, like invisible vote counts, and exponential cool-down periods which encourage healthy conversations.

Whether that is compatible with their business goals is another question.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

I expect Tesla will still be his "crown jewel". He's already announced he's searching for a Twitter CEO. I doubt it would take him much time out of his day to set a general vision for Twitter.

Jeff Bezos for example owns the Washington Post, but doesn't run it (which will likely be the case with Musk and Twitter in a few months), and it doesn't seem to have detracted from anything while he was still CEO of Amazon.

Finding the right CEO will be the challenge, and I surprisingly haven't heard any speculation on who could get the job.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I hope ads will die some day. To me they are just annoying and very rarely informative.

Where's the funding come from, then? That was not a cheap purchase.

In unrelated news:

https://twitter.com/ProfessorShaw/status/1586064942972575746

Also, I assume the point is a presidential run within the next cycle or three.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Apparently He laid off the data engineering team. That term is pretty vague, anyone know what they do? https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-... Edit: this may have been a prank.

This story looks like it was a hoax, it has an editors note now.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

> targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology. Clearly happening, yet even here already we have four people so far claiming that it doesn't, and people flagging/downvoting you for telling the truth. They banned a conservative satire publication ffs. The Babylon Bee. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." —George Orwell, 1984

I see people asking for examples of conservative voices being targeted, not just blanket "nuh uh!"s.

The Bee was banned for violating the rules and promoting transphobia. Is that the "conservative voices... ideology" you're thinking of?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Gruber has said that 25% of Twitter employees have already left in the past year (though the number is unsourced)

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/10/21/twitter-musk-wa...

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

> targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology. Clearly happening, yet even here already we have four people so far claiming that it doesn't, and people flagging/downvoting you for telling the truth. They banned a conservative satire publication ffs. The Babylon Bee. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." —George Orwell, 1984

> They banned a conservative satire publication ffs. The Babylon Bee.

Nitpick: suspended until they deleted a tweet which they have refused to do.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Well, speaking in those terms, I think the thing to watch will in fact be censorship. Elon is extremely idealistic, so it will be fascinating to watch him melt down when confronted with the reality of how complex free speech and censorship issues really are. I predict that he will succeed in turning Twitter into the rightwing safehaven that "Truth" Social, Parlor, etc have all been trying to become. He's making a dea…

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Not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. It is that idealistic thinking that got us SpaceX and all that, so clearly the visionary aspect of his thinking is great, but it is a double edged sword. He thinks free speech is a problem he can solve solve, but I am saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He is smart, but clumsy, and I seriously question his motives.
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