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How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by bawolff »

logisticpeach wrote: post #138
bawolff wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> only reminds me of what we could have achieved if this ingenuity had been applied in another domain. I hate arguments like this. Even ignoring how dismisive it is of the achievement at hand, why would you assume ingenuity is transferable like that? Someone who makes a breakthrough in physics is by no means likely to have made an equivalently ground breaking advance in biology if they had decided to study that field…

Aside from the fact that I explicitly praised the achievment, my point actually relies on said appreciation. I guess my musing was hypothetical but I was careless in communicating that. I get that we can't centrally plan innovation or human effort - and I certainly wouldn't want to live in a society where this was the case.

Respectfully, you can praise the achievement while still being dismissive. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by p1esk »

logisticpeach wrote: post #141
p1esk wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people haven't heard about recent advancements in image generation. When they do, I expect they will be amazed.

True, but then we've essentialy had limitless image generation capabilities since we've had the tools to make marks. I guess this is faster, and in other ways it offers promising new opportinities for people who can't / don't want to learn to create stuff directly. Others are interpreting my original comment as "this is not art", but I'm not really trying to make that argument. Art is entirely subjective and i don't…

people who can't / don't want to learn to create stuff directly.

That’s 99% of the people. I mean even to learn prompt engineering will probably be too much for majority of those 99% people, but it’s a huge step forward in user friendliness, compared to, say, photoshop.

”what itch does this scratch"?

How many people post pictures on social media? Many of those pictures are not personal, they show something pretty, cool, or interesting in some way. All of those people can potentially use image generators to achieve the same effect.

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by xapata »

krumbie wrote: post #67

What's kind of crazy is how the images tend to have similarities in small features that become very apparent when flipping back and forth between images, but which are not obvious per se. For example, I flipped back and forth between Beatrix Potter and Paulus Potter. A rounded white bonnet in one picture becomes a couple of blossoms in the other. The roof of a house becomes some shadowy wall with plants in the other.…

The blue woman in Sam Bosma's style looks strikingly similar to the one in Noah Bradley's style. They even have the same 3 patches of pink on their cheeks.

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by Daub »

I lecture in painting, and to me some of these are truly impressive. Not surprisingly, those artists is not predominantly painting (e.g. Josph Beuys) or is predominantly linear (Audrey Beardly) do not fare so well.

There is a lot of talk in our department as to how we might prepare our students for this technology. It is scary how fast it is growing, and how it is spreading to things like 3D and texturing.

One of my team is already using it in production. It used to take his artists three days to come up with five visual development ideas. Now he can get fifty overnight to choose from.

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by bragr »

Daub wrote: post #165

I lecture in painting, and to me some of these are truly impressive. Not surprisingly, those artists is not predominantly painting (e.g. Josph Beuys) or is predominantly linear (Audrey Beardly) do not fare so well. There is a lot of talk in our department as to how we might prepare our students for this technology. It is scary how fast it is growing, and how it is spreading to things like 3D and texturing. One of my…

>Not surprisingly, those artists is not predominantly painting (e.g. Josph Beuys) or is predominantly linear (Audrey Beardly) do not fare so well.

To my untrained eye, these both look pretty good.

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by Daub »

bragr wrote: post #166
Daub wrote: post #165

I lecture in painting, and to me some of these are truly impressive. Not surprisingly, those artists is not predominantly painting (e.g. Josph Beuys) or is predominantly linear (Audrey Beardly) do not fare so well. There is a lot of talk in our department as to how we might prepare our students for this technology. It is scary how fast it is growing, and how it is spreading to things like 3D and texturing. One of my…

>Not surprisingly, those artists is not predominantly painting (e.g. Josph Beuys) or is predominantly linear (Audrey Beardly) do not fare so well. To my untrained eye, these both look pretty good. https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/... https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

I agree, they are nice results. But Joseph Beuys is better known for performance art. In his most famous piece, he covered himself in gold foil, and explained art to a dead hare (below). To my mind, it makes little sense to apply this method to his art.

https://uploads4.wikiart.org/images/joseph-beuys/how-to-expl...

The Audrey Beardly results are a bit better, but if I wanted Beardly-ish drawings I would likely be disappointed. Beardly's lines were very fine... 'filigree', like a spider crawling over the paper, and he almost never made art in colour. Also, a lot of his work was as sexy as hell. NSFW last link (bottom of page) for relatively mild examples.

https://uploads2.wikiart.org/images/aubrey-beardsley/the-dan...

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/...

https://www.messynessychic.com/2019/11/13/the-world-wasnt-re...

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by felipeerias »

elcomet wrote: post #168

It doesn't really work. I just tried "Vincent Van Gogh, and the images have absolutely nothing to do with his style. Same for Gaugin. If it doesn't work for such famous painters, hard to trust it for the other ones.

Search is broken. Using the arrows works.

Vincent van Gogh:

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

Paul Gauguin:

https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

Re: How a Stable Diffusion prompt changes its output for the style of 1500 artists

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Post by elcomet »

felipeerias wrote: post #169
elcomet wrote: post #168

It doesn't really work. I just tried "Vincent Van Gogh, and the images have absolutely nothing to do with his style. Same for Gaugin. If it doesn't work for such famous painters, hard to trust it for the other ones.

Search is broken. Using the arrows works. Vincent van Gogh: https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/... Paul Gauguin: https://static.adityashankar.xyz/gorgeous/hair_flowers_full/...

oh ok, looks much better indeed
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