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Why was that title editorialized as "around 83.4%"? 83.4% of 500 is exactly 417. The article is also exact about these numbers. No need to add "around". Edit: Why was the title editorialized to begin with? Edit2: looks like the title was updated to the original. Thanks.
Nit picking much, are we ?
I know how we feel about the Microsoft Death Star consuming all in its path, but there are some upsides to statistics like this. For instance, we are a B2B software vendor in the banking space, and we have to survive all kinds of audits regarding the nature of our code & vendors. By keeping nearly all of our 3rd party items under the Microsoft umbrella, we can automagically skip over vast chunks of our due diligence…
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I know how we feel about the Microsoft Death Star consuming all in its path, but there are some upsides to statistics like this. For instance, we are a B2B software vendor in the banking space, and we have to survive all kinds of audits regarding the nature of our code & vendors. By keeping nearly all of our 3rd party items under the Microsoft umbrella, we can automagically skip over vast chunks of our due diligence…
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If not, you aren’t a potential customer.
> We assume the first result is the homepage of that company, and the domain they would use for their tenant. That is a big assumption though. A very well known big-four with two letters uses for instance [letters]gs.com ("Global Services") for instance.
85% of big businesses are on the one you don't support.
"Results for the Fortune 500 [to see who's on Azure AD using a] CSV with a list of all the Company Names for all 500 companies. Running it through this script, I find that 417, or 83.4% of companies have AAD, which is just a little off from Microsoft’s public claim of 85%."
https://www.shawntabrizi.com/aad/does-company-x-have-an-azur...
See also this top comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33046968
What I can’t understand is why Azure AD doesn’t have a stronger position in the consumer space. Authentication via Google, Apple, and even still Facebook are nearly always supported on customer-facing logins. I rarely see an option for Microsoft. They have a commanding position in the enterprise. What’s keeping them from crossing those enterprise boundaries?
They were an early mover in this area twenty years ago with the original Hailstorm / .Net Passport which was skeptically received and wasn’t helped by some spectacular outages. Google and Facebook leveraged their apps and especially GMail - Apple had the leverage from their App Store to force everyone that mattered to at their service too.
These days, a consumer + biz page login page can look like this:
https://www.xsplit.com/user/auth
There's almost no good reason to require emails/password rather than let users use their preferred IdP.
I think the reason it's less common is simply that indie devs assume everyone uses free Google Workspaces. This year we're seeing more Microsoft Logins. Perhaps one reason is that now Google Workspaces is no longer free and startups are realizing they can get actual Office with actual apps at the same per $6 to $12 per user cost. Then in turn, supporting that login.
I know how we feel about the Microsoft Death Star consuming all in its path, but there are some upsides to statistics like this. For instance, we are a B2B software vendor in the banking space, and we have to survive all kinds of audits regarding the nature of our code & vendors. By keeping nearly all of our 3rd party items under the Microsoft umbrella, we can automagically skip over vast chunks of our due diligence…
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For the HN B2B startups here supporting Google Workspace SSO and not Microsoft Azure SSO, or offering Sign in with Google and not Sign in with Microsoft... why? 85% of big businesses are on the one you don't support. "Results for the Fortune 500 [to see who's on Azure AD using a] CSV with a list of all the Company Names for all 500 companies. Running it through this script, I find that 417, or 83.4% of companies have…
sso integration when interacting with a fortune 500 will be a minuscule aspect of the arrangement should you get there. an f500 does not simply decide to use your product and do an sso integration et voila. they want a compliance regiment, a custom crafted legal arrangement, risk assessment, probably an onprem discussion, if you’re small enough a straight out purchase discussion. months if not years of negotiation. basically the sso button is the least of your concerns.
What I can’t understand is why Azure AD doesn’t have a stronger position in the consumer space. Authentication via Google, Apple, and even still Facebook are nearly always supported on customer-facing logins. I rarely see an option for Microsoft. They have a commanding position in the enterprise. What’s keeping them from crossing those enterprise boundaries?
Facebook and Google provide "Sign-in with Facebook/Google account" not because they do it out of goodwill, to only make it "easier" or "smoother" to login -- it obviously cost resources on their end to enable such features -- it helps them better identify users and then serve ads. And Google can be really aggressive -- try reddit or Quora.
Apple, on the other hand, tries to sell "login with Apple account" with a different approach: they advertise the "privacy" part of it and how you can hide your email address by using it's sign-in service. And they have a term where login with Apple must be enabled on an app and website if a company has an app on the app store and it supports any other third-party login. In other words, if Reddit supports login with Google on iPhone, it must also support login with Apple ID. This helped the adoption a lot.
For Microsoft, they are relatively late and small in the ad business (for now) so I guess they don't really care about getting more of your information via sign-in services. And they are not on this privacy bandwagon as Apple does. So they really have no incentive for this.
For the HN B2B startups here supporting Google Workspace SSO and not Microsoft Azure SSO, or offering Sign in with Google and not Sign in with Microsoft... why? 85% of big businesses are on the one you don't support. "Results for the Fortune 500 [to see who's on Azure AD using a] CSV with a list of all the Company Names for all 500 companies. Running it through this script, I find that 417, or 83.4% of companies have…