The HGX A100 solves this problem: https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/introducing-hgx-a100-most-... Basically we need to move away from slots!
We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
A backplane and a bunch of additional connectors add cost that the PC market doesn't want to pay.
checks features of motherboard ... additional connectors, yep... PCIe backplane, yep... Having bought both... it is definitely costs they don't want to pay, but not the cost of those features . It's more like industrial grade PSUs and redundancy that get mandated by various specifications and end up reducing the market size which further racks up costs.
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#163Every time I see the sizes of GPUs increase, I'm reminded of this from over 2 decades ago: https://vgamuseum.ru/wp-content/gallery/bitching-fast/bitchi...
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#165Every time I see the sizes of GPUs increase, I'm reminded of this from over 2 decades ago: https://vgamuseum.ru/wp-content/gallery/bitching-fast/bitchi...
That card is huge, but I bet it's a fair bit lighter than most of the gaming sector cards now.
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#166> Should we have GPU VRAM slots alongside CPU RAM slots? Is that even possible? I chuckled a little at this because I used to wonder the same thing until I had to actually bring up a GDDR6 interface. Basically the reason GDDR6 is able to run so much faster is because we assume that everything is soldered down, and not socketed/slotted. Back when I worked for a GPU company, I occasionally had conversations with co-wor…
Memory and nvme storage are dense enough to make anything larger obsolete for the practical needs of most users. Emphasis on ‘practical’, not strictly ‘affordable’.
The only advantages of larger form factors are the ability to add cheaper storage, additional PCI-e cards, and aftermarket cosmetic changes such as lighting. IMO, each of these needs represent specialist use cases.
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#168Water cooling (with standardised connectors) seems like a sensible option (the heat-sink's the problem, not the GPU).
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's wrong with the NVidia 1630 or 1660, or AMD 6400, or Intel Arc 380?
Dual slot, massive fans, and only the Arc isn't extra long, from the pictures I see. I guess we have different ideas of big. Edit: Perhaps I use the term incorrectly, I mean they take up two case slots even if only a single pcie slot.
Single slot, half-profile, small fan, shorter than ATX / mATX?
This is a mini-card that'd fit in an ITX case (170mm)...
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#170Our first was just an existing card with a small daughter card with pals an sram on it, it was so easy that we got our own logos put on many of the chips to put the competition off the scent, we designed that one in days and got it to market in weeks.
We immediately started on 2 more designs. The next was all FPGA, it was as big a nubus card as one could build, it pulled too much power, and tilted under it's own weight out of the bus socket (Mac's didn't use screws to hold cards in place, that happened when you closed the chassis). We got it out the door about the point that the competition beat the first board's performance.
The final card was built with custom silicon, designed backwards from "how fast can we possibly make the vrams go if we use all the tricks?", In this case we essentially bet the company on whether a new ~200 pin plastic packaging technology was viable. This design really soaked the competition.
In those days big monitors didn't work on just any card so if you owned the high end graphics card biz you owned the high end monitor biz too ... The 3 card play above was worth more than $120m