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Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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For me it's Fastmail with a side of Namecheap (or maybe vice versa). Thankfully I pay both companies, thus there's an incentive to keep me happy so I keep paying... In particular, Fastmail has real support staff, which provides at least a modicum of peace of mind.

I use the same setup, had to contact Fastmail support once during the initial week of transferring from gmail. Support response was quick and professional.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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It is a bit overkill, but the closest you can get to owning your online identity is to "own" your own domain. sarcastiquotes used because you don't really own a domain you only rent it. I run my own mail server because I am a sys-admin and running a mail-server is something I do for fun. but the amount of agency you gain once you have a domain is staggering. people without a domain are pretty much second class net ci…

I own my domain name, however I opted to go through google apps for hosting my email. Most of the time it's fine, however the part that breaks down (and many have already commented about this) is that I can't make use of any of the google services via that email (nest, voice, etc). So I ended up creating another gmail account that is only used for those services.

All that said: can someone point me in the direction of a hosted email service that is reliable (this is a must, I don't want emails to bounce and I don't want spam), has native mobile apps w/push notifications, has a good web ui, and generally just works? And can anyone confirm that once I pull my email from google apps that I could then use it for those google services?

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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That gets unwieldy in a hurry for apartments and other multi-unit addresses. Not to mention 124 East Main St vs 124 West Main St. Then what happens when John (who is actually John Jr., but never uses the Junior unless legally required) has a son John III? Then John Sr. moves in rather than to a nursing home.

Same as whatever people do with their physical mail. Someone goes by a middle initial or you add a title to one and not the other. Your physical home address used to get printed under your photo in the 1940s newspapers. They stopped when people started to get murdered. I think there's good reasons we don't publicly ID off home addresses anymore. It sure would make life somewhat simpler if we could though.

> Your physical home address used to get printed under your photo in the 1940s newspapers. They stopped when people started to get murdered.

Citation needed.

Were the murderers foiled by having to use the phone book instead of the newspaper? Was it the lack of pictures that stopped them?

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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post #79

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I run my own mail server as well, on my own domain, own server, physically present in my home. It's increasingly becoming a hassle.. Especially sending mail from a "consumer" line is tricky, they block outgoing port 25 and no longer really provide a relay host for you to go through either.. I basically had to infiltrate my current ISP to get access to people in netops and gaslight them into configuring reverse-dns an…

> Nation states absolutely should provide and host, e-mail accounts for their citizens Because nation states are well known for producing usable software at a reasonable cost to tax payers? IRL this would cost billions and everyone under 60 would forward their gov’t mail to gmail.

Actually in Brazil the government has been providing tax-filling software for the last 20 years, and for its purposes it is quite good. If you just get a wage and don’t do anything too complex in your financial life like flipping houses, owning multiple companies, filling your yearly tax returns is a 10 to 20 minutes affair.

Also, the instant payments network that you can use to send money from any bank to any bank in seconds from your cell phone, the PIX, is government software.

Also, I am a small company owner and I can access a lot of government web applications online using a SSO with my optional digital certificate, or I can login into them by using my banks identity services as an oauth provider. No SMS funky business.

If anything, it is the private banks, that while in my experience have far better software than American banks, that is behind. I, for one can use the same digital certificate that I use for fiscal purposes to access my vaccination certificates, but I can’t use yet on most banks.

Of course there is a lot of government software that is basically enterprise software, bad software, but a lot of it, and usually the ones that I need to use more frequently are pretty good. They may not follow the latest flat design fashions, but they are accessible, ease to use, responsive, safe and fit for their purposes. And mind you, we are talking about Brasil, not exactly a model of good governance.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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once you have a domain you now have the ability to own stuff online. that is, independent of any corporation. The main benefit this gives your average person is the ability to move email around between server providers. but you can now have a web presence that is not (facebook, twitter, hackernews). nothing against sites, they are fine, but it is nice to have an online existance that is independent of them. Unfortuna…

It's good for having your own website. That's super easy to host and use. It's quite another thing for email. While it might not be that difficult to set up a basic email server, but to actually get it set up all correctly, and secure, and whitelisted, and get anything else on the 'net to actually interact with it is a little less trivial. And an email server that can't effectively send email (that won't be ditched a…

You don't have to self-host it, you can point it to an email provider (Gmail, Fastmail, Zoho...) and let them do the hosting for you. If they ban you (like Google likes to do), just point to another service and keep your email address (and therefore access to other services).

I work as a sysadmin and I don't want to bother with self-hosting my own email. I happily pay someone else to do that for me.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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post #25

It is a bit overkill, but the closest you can get to owning your online identity is to "own" your own domain. sarcastiquotes used because you don't really own a domain you only rent it. I run my own mail server because I am a sys-admin and running a mail-server is something I do for fun. but the amount of agency you gain once you have a domain is staggering. people without a domain are pretty much second class net ci…

I own my domain name, however I opted to go through google apps for hosting my email. Most of the time it's fine, however the part that breaks down (and many have already commented about this) is that I can't make use of any of the google services via that email (nest, voice, etc). So I ended up creating another gmail account that is only used for those services. All that said: can someone point me in the direction o…

> All that said: can someone point me in the direction of a hosted email service that is reliable (this is a must, I don't want emails to bounce and I don't want spam), has native mobile apps w/push notifications, has a good web ui, and generally just works? And can anyone confirm that once I pull my email from google apps that I could then use it for those google services?

Fastmail does all that, I'm using it for years now: https://www.fastmail.com/?STKI=/u226717

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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post #25

It is a bit overkill, but the closest you can get to owning your online identity is to "own" your own domain. sarcastiquotes used because you don't really own a domain you only rent it. I run my own mail server because I am a sys-admin and running a mail-server is something I do for fun. but the amount of agency you gain once you have a domain is staggering. people without a domain are pretty much second class net ci…

I own my domain name, however I opted to go through google apps for hosting my email. Most of the time it's fine, however the part that breaks down (and many have already commented about this) is that I can't make use of any of the google services via that email (nest, voice, etc). So I ended up creating another gmail account that is only used for those services. All that said: can someone point me in the direction o…

I've set up my custom domain with iCloud mail and it's been 100% painless. The web client is pretty basic but also snappy and reliable. YMMV if you're not in the Apple ecosystem; but if you are, it's all super smooth.

I have no idea how it works with the Google stuff, as I'm actively trying to avoid it; but last time I checked, you could create a Google account with any email you like, and things just work.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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post #135

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What can work really well, is to rent the cheapest, smallest VPS you can find. Then redirect the SMTP port with a VPN to your local server, which can be anywhere in the world. You can run IMAP the same way if you want to.

Personally, I'm fully capable of doing that, but even then, it's all entirely dependent on the graces of random VPS providers, it's another route I'd rather not go, I already find it repugnant that the Internet service itself is in the hands of private entities which are under no obligation to provide any specific quality of service (not an enforceable one anyway, as I cannot really chose whose running the actual net…

I find RackNerd suits me just well. They are a great provider. I found them on Low End Boxes. I pay $25 a year. The only thing I ran into was the IP that was assigned was in one blacklist. It was one of the notoriously overzealous blacklists that hate everyone, though it was simple enough to request removal. No problems since.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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post #79
post #25

It is a bit overkill, but the closest you can get to owning your online identity is to "own" your own domain. sarcastiquotes used because you don't really own a domain you only rent it. I run my own mail server because I am a sys-admin and running a mail-server is something I do for fun. but the amount of agency you gain once you have a domain is staggering. people without a domain are pretty much second class net ci…

I run my own mail server as well, on my own domain, own server, physically present in my home. It's increasingly becoming a hassle.. Especially sending mail from a "consumer" line is tricky, they block outgoing port 25 and no longer really provide a relay host for you to go through either.. I basically had to infiltrate my current ISP to get access to people in netops and gaslight them into configuring reverse-dns an…

Everyone deserves an e-mail that can't be taken away from them without a court order.
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