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John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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We will have something that we ourselves define to be AGI, sure, but then it's easy to hit any goal that way. Is that machine really intelligent? What does that word even mean? Can it think for itself? Is it sentient? Similar to AI, AGI is going to be a new industry buzzword that you can throw at anything and mean nothing.

You're making me think of the recent "Hoverboards".

Right, certain companies will definitely have a big bullshit party about the term "AGI".

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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That’s crazy money for a vaporware seed round, isn’t it?

Key early stage valuation drivers include quality of the founder/team, history of success, and market opportunity (especially if a fundamentally disruptive technology).

All three of these are off the charts.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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> Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. Any resources on that? I have a feeling that RL might play a big role in the first AGI, too, but why transformers in particular?

Transformers have gradually taken over in every other ML domain.

Okay, but do those ML domains help with AGI?

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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I wonder if Carmacks moral compass is in order. First he sticks around at Facebook, now he endangers humanity with AGI. And i'm only half joking.

There is a story in “Masters of Doom” about Carmack getting rid of his cat because “she was having a net negative effect on my life”. That’s cold.

absolutely not! to the contrary; don't force yourself to endure abusive relationships.

(also cats are extremely destructive beasts)

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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I'm very optimistic for near-term AGI (10 years or less). Even just a few years ago most in the field would have said that it's an "unknown unknown", we didn't have the theory or the models, there was no path forward and so it was impossible to predict. Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. The issue is that unlike supervised training y…

We will have something that we ourselves define to be AGI, sure, but then it's easy to hit any goal that way. Is that machine really intelligent? What does that word even mean? Can it think for itself? Is it sentient? Similar to AI, AGI is going to be a new industry buzzword that you can throw at anything and mean nothing.

There’s certainly the philosophy side of AGI, but there’s also the practical side. Does the Chinese room understand Chinese? If your goal is just to create a room that passes Chinese Turing tests that doesn’t matter.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Does AGI implies the technological singularity and if not, why not?

a) We don't really know what AGI implies

b) Even if we say "a human being level of intelligence, whatever that means", the answer is still a maybe. For a singularity you need a system that can improve its ability to improve its abilities, which may require more than general intelligence, and will probably require other capabilities.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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I'm very optimistic for near-term AGI (10 years or less). Even just a few years ago most in the field would have said that it's an "unknown unknown", we didn't have the theory or the models, there was no path forward and so it was impossible to predict. Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. The issue is that unlike supervised training y…

> Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. Any resources on that? I have a feeling that RL might play a big role in the first AGI, too, but why transformers in particular?

they don't seem to have a theoretical upper limit. more data and more parameters seem to just keep making it more advanced. Even in ways that weren't predicted or understood. the difference between a language model that can explain a novel joke and one that can't is purely scale. So the thought is with enough scale, you eventually hit AGI
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