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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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> Multiple credible accusations, corroborated by contemporaneous accounts, collated by a reputable journalist is definitely enough to call the accusations founded. Journalists build a narrative and then find facts that fit their narrative. If you continue to form your opinions on accusation you will find yourself easily manipulated by those who know how journalism works.

For the record...that's not journalism. It might be reporting. It might be marketing. It might be character assassination. But. It's not journalism. We need to stop giving that type of behaviour a greater title than it deserves.

This. Exactly fucking this.

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'They' are a bunch of algorithms and they don't take appointments. Just say a lot of positive things about the following topics on social media and the algorithms will start working for you: - Fiat monetary system - Banks - Big corporations - Big tech - Hedge funds - Billionaires - The importance of censorship to prevent misinformation - Executive bonuses - Surveillance - The need for more regulations - Big governmen…

This is some serious tin foil hattery you've got going on.

It doesn't require a conspiracy for tech platforms to modify their algorithms to promote certain agendas. Governments can print unlimited amounts of new currency; this provides them a mechanism to distort the markets to reward activities which suit their agenda. ESG is a prime example of that.

Even wars happen in a large part because governments can print unlimited money and hand out huge contracts to weapons manufacturers. The government doesn't care about net losses because citizens are the ones who will pay through inflation... So long as the politicians' buddies who head the weapons manufacturing companies can rake in the profits, all is well. But government agendas extend far beyond just wars; they extend to just about every aspect of the economy these days.

Efficient market hypothesis is becoming increasingly irrelevant as government intervention in the economy increases.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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This is some serious tin foil hattery you've got going on.

It doesn't require a conspiracy for tech platforms to modify their algorithms to promote certain agendas. Governments can print unlimited amounts of new currency; this provides them a mechanism to distort the markets to reward activities which suit their agenda. ESG is a prime example of that. Even wars happen in a large part because governments can print unlimited money and hand out huge contracts to weapons manufac…

How you jumped from private tech companies and their "agenda" to governments printing money for their "agenda" is really weird. While some of what you're saying has a seed of truth to it, you definitely like jumping to all sorts of conspiracies. I think you should speak to a mental health professional.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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> Dan Price, CEO who contrived scheme to cut his brother out of company and earn social media fame in order to abuse women, quits amid legal woes Fixed.

Without proof that's defamation not a fix

By 'proof' I suspect you mean, at a minimum, the following?

> a conviction in a US court of law for at least the specific crimes alleged, or more serious crimes/charges/convictions of the same nature.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

#166
post #58

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Claiming she is accusing him for "for sweet money" is as much unfounded accusation as the response to it. Actually even more if you look at the actual content of what posters wrote. While the response you reacted to contained mild claim, the original one was flat out vilification and direct accusation. Why is it that the former one is acceptable, but people who respond to it have to tip toes around?

I agree with you. I did not mean that the former comment is acceptable. Both comments are not unacceptable. I chose the lower comment to reply to. That might have given that impression. But I find speculation for either sides to be problems. Nobody should have to tip toe around. A good response to the speculation in upper comment could have been to point out that it is speculation and unfounded, not make more specula…

What part of my comment was speculation?

I pointed out facts in the story.

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Gosh you make it sound like a schoolyard flirtation. "Stole a kiss". She was trapped in his car and he grabbed her by the throat. He grabbed another woman by the throat and didn't let go. He raped a woman. There is a pattern of behaviour here that is profoundly disturbing. Victims are often frightened enough to not come forward. The kind of trial by social media in which you're now engaged is all part of that. Why al…

Was she? She said he grabbed her by the throat. What’s that mean? He actually did? Did it leave a mark? I mean, if it was strong enough to choke her? Did his hand brush her throat? What was her immediate description of what happened to the very first person she told? These other acts you describe, were they accusations or facts? You are literally engaging in trial by social media asserting claims as fact when they ar…

The police are recommending he is changed with rape.

That is - at the very least - a credible accusation.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Im pretty sure it was implemented because of the amount of mob justice that was going on during the period of the salem witch trials.

pretty sure it was implemented a millennium or two before that

Its generaly attributed to Sir William Garrow a British barrister who made the notion that people should be innocent until proven guilty in trial in 1791. before that the justice system was guilty until proven innocent, so the salem witch trials in 1692 would absolutely be under guilty until proven innocent and unfair trials like that are what changed people mind to mob justice where guilt is assumed not proven.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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post #164

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It doesn't require a conspiracy for tech platforms to modify their algorithms to promote certain agendas. Governments can print unlimited amounts of new currency; this provides them a mechanism to distort the markets to reward activities which suit their agenda. ESG is a prime example of that. Even wars happen in a large part because governments can print unlimited money and hand out huge contracts to weapons manufac…

How you jumped from private tech companies and their "agenda" to governments printing money for their "agenda" is really weird. While some of what you're saying has a seed of truth to it, you definitely like jumping to all sorts of conspiracies. I think you should speak to a mental health professional.

Let's not pretend that governments aren't working for big corporations. There is a lot of overlap between the private agenda of various large corporations and the government agenda. If it seems disconnected it's only because I don't have time to write out the whole theory and explain how all the different parts of the economy interact and TBH I can't say I fully understand it to be able to make an airtight argument. I just understand enough to make some predictions. The economy is too complex to fully explain; all you can do is lay out some loosely related facts and hope that it resonates with the reader. It's not a hard science. Let's wait 10 years and see which of us is the one who needed to see a professional.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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I'm thinking that he wouldn't have been allowed to become successful unless there was dirt on him. It's the sad reality nowadays that the only people who can speak for the average person and for what's right are compromised in some way... They have to be compromised in order to be allowed to get that kind of reach. Still, the accusations against him sound kind of hand-wavy... The 'waterboarding' thing sounds bad but…

Sorry, but this seems ridiculous. Surely it's plausible that a tech company can see success independently of any dirt on a founder, and that his $70k thing made for easy headlines and brought him a lot of attention. It's more likely that a self-promoter conceives of this sort of angle and with a view to pushing it as a gimmick, and that the same personality type is prone to the allegedly selfish behaviour.

You underestimate how many people there are in the world competing for attention. I guarantee you that there are many far more interesting stories which never see the light of day.
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