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I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Safety at a blistering speed of checks article 25 mph? Who in their right mind would design for safety if the thing can't even outpace a professional cyclist?

That’s not professional level I’d say most cyclists can sprint at 25+

But only briefly, because they'd have to sprint, so I'm ignoring that part.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Safety at a blistering speed of checks article 25 mph? Who in their right mind would design for safety if the thing can't even outpace a professional cyclist?

25mph is plenty fast for a car accident.

Or a bike accident. Yeah it's going to hurt, you might even break some things, but for it to be any more than that would be the definition of a freak accident.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Safety at a blistering speed of checks article 25 mph? Who in their right mind would design for safety if the thing can't even outpace a professional cyclist?

If you think 25mph is safe, try smashing your face against a tree at 25mph. Or run as fast as you can face first into a brick wall. I bet you can't run 25mph.

Why run? I've hit a brick wall going downhill on a bike. It hurts like hell, but it just hurt like hell. 25 mph is not enough to even guarantee a serious injury (even though it can lead to that, and yeah, in freak accidents can even kill you). However, this vehicles absolute top speed is 25 mph, unloaded. That's why I called out the top speed. It's not going to go 25 mph 99.99% of the time, it'll be going 10 or 15.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Safety at a blistering speed of checks article 25 mph? Who in their right mind would design for safety if the thing can't even outpace a professional cyclist?

If it rolls at that speed, and the poorly QA'ed roof crumples in you could definitely end up with serious injuries or even die.

Yeah, but the odds of the thing ever actually going top speed are basically zero. Even with a load in the back it's never in a million years reaching that speed.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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How many of the trucks you see in the US are actually needed , though? Most of them are only used for commuting, and twice the size of a truck used for actual work.

A truck used as a truck once per year and for commuting the rest of the year is cheaper than a truck and a small car. some of them could rent, but the restrictions on what you can do with a rental truck combined with the convince of a truck when you want it (rentals are sometimes sold out, and even if not you need to go get it while the truck is right there) mean a truck looks very compelling.

Yeah, renting a truck for, say, 2-3 days was something like $250-300 in my case. If I need one more than 2-3x a year it approaches the price point of a cheap truck vs a family sedan or SUV.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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> it was about 2:3 scale Lol it's normal size for the rest of the world.

Exactly! This whole article is so pervasively American that it was just about unreadable to me. It's a fairly rare and quite novel experience: it's in my native language, but so completely based on US assumptions and presumption of shared knowledge that I do not have, that it just... doesn't parse. * His parents apparently live on some plot of land the size of a largish city. Presumably alone? * The vehicle is a perf…

This is a cheap toy truck for pretty much any industrialized country. It’s weird to compare heavy machinery sizes as if it was up to personal preferences.

Maybe look past your vitriol towards the US?

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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The closest thing was probably the electric Smart car that Mercedes makes: https://carbuzz.com/cars/smart/fortwo-electric-drive-cabrio They don’t sell them in the US anymore.

Is the Honda-e available over there? That's a pretty nice mini electric vehicle.

The Honda-e is not available at all in the US. The top line excuse is that side-view cameras are still not street legal in the US (though regulators are supposed to finally reconvene on that any day now) and the car's profile can't retrofit mirrors. But the current bottom line seems a disinterest from Honda of America in any EV products right now.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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I chuckled at this “F-50” but also wonder if this could be the start of a classic Clayton Christensen style disruption curve [1]. [1]: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Disruptivetechnology...

That's been my feeling with ChangLi cars in general. USD$2000 cars that are considered "fun" to drive on Alibaba seems very much like a leading indicator for a disruption curve of some sort. (Imagine if you saw $2000 cars on Amazon tomorrow.) A lot of people are still assuming the base price of EVs is going to remain around current ICE prices or worse the current ICE price plus "EV luxury tax" (which often seems to be misattributed to battery costs and/or battery supply chain issues), but ChangLi seems to be showing us that assumption may not hold up in the long term (especially once supply chain issues are sorted) and playfully remind us that there's a greater less explored vehicle spectrum space between "golf cart" and "real car" that ICE extremely underserved and EVs open up more niches to easily/enjoyably explore.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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> it was about 2:3 scale Lol it's normal size for the rest of the world.

Exactly! This whole article is so pervasively American that it was just about unreadable to me. It's a fairly rare and quite novel experience: it's in my native language, but so completely based on US assumptions and presumption of shared knowledge that I do not have, that it just... doesn't parse. * His parents apparently live on some plot of land the size of a largish city. Presumably alone? * The vehicle is a perf…

he keeps talking about it as if it were a toy

It has a top speed of 25 mph.

as if those were everyday things

This is something common that children learn about.

The rest of your comment seems like incoherent venting.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Honestly, I think $7,000 delivered for this is a pretty good price. It would make a nice farm vehicle, especially with that dump bed. It's in the same price range as a lower end UTV and looks like it would be far more comfortable doing, e.g., snow clearing duty. Swap in a set of BFG Mud Terrain tires and you're all set. Some feedback on reliability, the rust issues, etc. would be nice but I'd seriously think about ge…

I'm not sure if thats really a good deal. You can find some Leafs with new bats for like $3000-4000 all over. And thats road legal anywhere. Maybe chop the top and you got a pickup.

Can I throw a set of All Terrains on a Leaf? Also, ground clearance would probably be an issue.
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