Gitlab and remote work

Post by akvadrako » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 6:54 AM UTC

CoastalCoder wrote: post #109

tristor wrote: post #89

I appreciate a lot of what Gitlab has done, but as someone who has been permanently remote for nearly a decade, I don't really consider them to be a leader in remote work. One of my biggest issues with Gitlab is that they pay based on locality, many other fully remote companies pay below Bay Area salaries, but they pay flat globally, meaning you can be location-independent without a pay-cut and it helps to bring in h…

I don't really understand appealing to the concept of "fair" regarding salary. I guess I'm showing some assumptions about labor being a free market, but isn't your salary by definition acceptable to both you and the employer?

Post by nsonha » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

tomnipotent wrote: post #105

slg wrote: post #100

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>I care what the company is earning from my labor and getting my fair share. I have no problem extorting more from a company that has no problem extorting more from me. This just feels naive to me. You aren't being paid based on what your labor is earning your company. That number is totally irrelevant in a world in which businesses can run on VC money instead of actual revenue. You are paid based of both yours and y…

> You aren't being paid based on what your labor is earning your company. I've managed P&L at multiple companies. Salaries are inevitably influenced by cash flow projections and revenues, and are absolutely aligned in multiple dimensions to revenues. > cost of living shouldn't matter and maybe pay everyone $110k No, they're going to pay whatever their margins can tolerate while competing for labor. If Google can mana…

Post by tomnipotent » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 7:15 AM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #148

tomnipotent wrote: post #93

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Locally-adjusted pay is a fluke if revenues are not locally constrained (like a coffee shop). It's just another way employers try and nickle and dime workers, and it's sad that a large class of workers have been brainwashed to support it because somehow they're more upset at the other workers making more, than the company trying to pull a fast on on them. "But you would make so much more than your neighbors!". Fuck o…

>Locally-adjusted pay is a fluke if revenues are not locally constrained You don't get paid based on company revenue, you get paid based on the lowest amount you (or someone you're competing with) are willing to agree to sell your labour for. That amount is going to be lower if your cost of living is lower. People earning less if they work remotely in Podunk, Idaho compared to SF is no different from someone earning…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 7:27 AM UTC

leeoniya wrote: post #103

tristor wrote: post #95

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> You also won't see this for senior management. As a VP/C-level, I've never had a potential employer put pressure on salary during a negotiation because of my location (though it's always been domestic). It's never even come up besides relocation discussions. This is absolutely true and it's because executives usually have spent at least some amount of time doing "sales" type roles where they learn what value sellin…

> This is absolutely true and it's because executives usually have spent at least some amount of time doing "sales" type roles where they learn what value selling is. or because there are two orders of magnitude fewer VPs/C-levels than line workers. an extra +100k for a single unicorn employee is easier to justify than +20k comp x 100 replaceable employees

Post by jsiaajdsdaa » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 7:37 AM UTC