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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by daniel-cussen »

illwrks wrote: post #95

A long time ago in one of the first properties I rented the washing machine stopped working. My flatmate called the agency and a day later, I think it was a Saturday morning, a rough looking man turned up to repair it. I remember he had a tattered pair of working jeans and a similarly tattered polo shirt on. He pulled the machine out, took it apart diagnosed the issue and popped out to his car get a part. While he wa…

That's cool, that's what my image of a cool landlord is, the one who is just an excellent handyman--a maintenance focus.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by Findecanor »

marssaxman wrote: post #110
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I make a point of either removing or covering logos on my clothing and accessories when I can't find unbranded options. A seam ripper is useful for removing sewn-on patch style logos. For embroidered or embossed logos, I often sew on a Cascadian flag patch - all of my backpacks and utility bags have them!

I do that too all the time. A downside though is that you risk ripping the material, especially with knitted shirts. I've done that only a couple of times over the years, so it is not a big loss.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by jaywalk »

Aeolun wrote: post #130
illwrks wrote: post #95

A long time ago in one of the first properties I rented the washing machine stopped working. My flatmate called the agency and a day later, I think it was a Saturday morning, a rough looking man turned up to repair it. I remember he had a tattered pair of working jeans and a similarly tattered polo shirt on. He pulled the machine out, took it apart diagnosed the issue and popped out to his car get a part. While he wa…

I’m of the opinion that truly good clothes do not need to sport a logo at all. Unless you can see/feel the quality, why pay a premium just to show people you spent 500% more on your shirt?

People pay way more than 500% more just to have a logo on their shirt. It has nothing to do with quality.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by daniel-cussen »

rr888 wrote: post #157
illwrks wrote: post #95

A long time ago in one of the first properties I rented the washing machine stopped working. My flatmate called the agency and a day later, I think it was a Saturday morning, a rough looking man turned up to repair it. I remember he had a tattered pair of working jeans and a similarly tattered polo shirt on. He pulled the machine out, took it apart diagnosed the issue and popped out to his car get a part. While he wa…

I'd like to agree, but the second multi millionaire you knew lived in one of the wealthiest neighbourhoods in London, and the first multi millionaire you dont know where he lived but has an expensive car and is likely the same. I've always lived in cheap arsed neighbourhoods, my recent place is above average and it makes a lot of things easier - even if I dont really enjoy the boring corporate neighbours.

Mmm...yes it was an expensive car brand, but it is a common car in Africa because it's just so reliable, very rugged and also easy to repair. And it's not that expensive.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by todfox »

jcampbell1 wrote: post #150
todfox wrote: post #141

I refuse to wear or display any corporate logo, even if I generally like the company or its products. I buy unbranded clothing. When I can't get something unbranded (like a decent parka), I remove or obliterate the logo. I covered the apple on my phone and computer with electrical tape, even though I've been a Mac user for nearly 30 years. I am not a billboard. I reject status and status seeking behavior. I refuse to…

I have a blockbuster video t-shirt that gets lots of laughs. Are we allowed to advertise already bankrupt businesses?

You're allowed to do whatever you want. For myself, I am just beyond supporting or being part of any type of group or culture or signaling such.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by daniel-cussen »

r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I like them and wear them but get the logos removed by eg a seamstress, it's very cheap like 3 dollars. Crocodiles especially, I removed one myself but it took like 3 hours. They're on super tight.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by sleepdreamy »

ftio wrote: post #38
brookside wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

Came here to make this comment. More than 80% of my wardrobe is from Uniqlo, including 10 dry pique polos, 20 supima cotton tees, and 10 flannel button ups, all black. Makes getting dressed in the morning stress-free because I know I'm going to like how I look every day. The blacks do not fade — I have 5-year-old shirts that look practically as good as 6-month-old ones. Their jeans, especially their selvedge jeans, a…

Uniqlo's XXL is not true XXL so I can't wear any of their clothing :(

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by em-bee »

mkl95 wrote: post #148

On the other hand, not signalling your status will make some people feel entitled to disrespect you or treat you in a patronising way, due to their skewed social perception. Try attending some business dinner with regular clothes, to name an example. Some people out there are dying to buy the clothes you could buy but couldn't care less about.

well, those people are then exactly who i will avoid doing business with.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by dewey »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #164
rr888 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to agree, but the second multi millionaire you knew lived in one of the wealthiest neighbourhoods in London, and the first multi millionaire you dont know where he lived but has an expensive car and is likely the same. I've always lived in cheap arsed neighbourhoods, my recent place is above average and it makes a lot of things easier - even if I dont really enjoy the boring corporate neighbours.

Mmm...yes it was an expensive car brand, but it is a common car in Africa because it's just so reliable, very rugged and also easy to repair. And it's not that expensive.

I don't really get that comparison. The current day Land Rover / Range Rovers are very different from "very rugged and easy to repair" ones of the past as they are basically SUVs now.

This might have been true for the Defender but not any more.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by wyager »

Aeolun wrote: post #130
illwrks wrote: post #95

A long time ago in one of the first properties I rented the washing machine stopped working. My flatmate called the agency and a day later, I think it was a Saturday morning, a rough looking man turned up to repair it. I remember he had a tattered pair of working jeans and a similarly tattered polo shirt on. He pulled the machine out, took it apart diagnosed the issue and popped out to his car get a part. While he wa…

I’m of the opinion that truly good clothes do not need to sport a logo at all. Unless you can see/feel the quality, why pay a premium just to show people you spent 500% more on your shirt?

Logos are for people who are insecure about status. Next level up involves partial counter-signaling by avoiding logos entirely.

There are many layers of status displays. I think SSC's analysis of fashion as cellular automata is the most coherent writing on this.

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