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Post by kuhewa »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #92
kuhewa wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing inherently unhealthy about being in a temporary state of negative energy flux (unless you are already underweight or deficient in an essential mineral or something)

That being true, it could well be that a "Potato Only Diet" is effective for weight loss not because of the reduced energy intake, nor because of some subtlety in how our gut or our metabolism deals with an only starch diet for a while, but instead because potatoes lack micronutrient X or inhibit its absorption and a symptom of X deficiency is losing weight. That could be unhealthy. I don't have an opinion either way…

pretty remote possibility, unless you have a deficiency in mind that manifests pretty quickly and causes rapid weight loss and doesn't cause systemic disease.

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Post by doubleunplussed »

siskiyou wrote: post #145

This diet falls into the same trap that all temporary diets do: assuming a brief change followed by a return to SOP will result in meaningful change. Your diet is properly understood as what you eat regularly for long periods, or forever. Change that and you may get somewhere. After your 30s, eat less total calories each year.

It's not assuming it, that's what they're testing for.

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Post by silicon2401 »

keyle wrote: post #18

One word of caution on these "only this diet". Your gut bacteria is a jungle with many species of microbes, trillions of them. They basically fight for territory and some subspecies will die if you stop injecting . So if you are not lactose intolerant and get off lactose for 6-9 months, don't expect that your belly will react well to a glass of milk in a year. I'm all for _reducing_ X and Y. But completely going pola…

> So if you are not lactose intolerant and get off lactose for 6-9 months, don't expect that your belly will react well to a glass of milk in a year.

I've quit all dairy for years in the past and had no issues when chugging a glass of milk or having something with cheese in it later. It's very case by case

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Post by cheese_goddess »

Anecdotally, that kind of thing sure works. Back in the day my aunt turned from plump and boring to thin and elegant in a couple of months by eating only chicken and rice.

However, I think those diets only "work" because they make you starve while filling your belly. I guess what they do to your body is that they deprive it of the vast majority of the nutrients it needs. It makes sense that you'd lose weight then, in the same way that it would make sense that you'd lose weight during a bout of serious illness, or after invasive surgery, or an accident etc. It's a sudden shock to the system, you know?

So I would be really careful with following one of those diets. You risk losing weight for reasons really deterimental to your health. I would only do this if I had a doctor I could trust that could monitor me regularly.

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

tomcam wrote: post #43
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #6

i consider myself a potato connoisseur. i have been eating and loving potatoes ever since i can remember and even before as far as my family can tell me. "don't you get bored from eating potatoes"? i am asked on a regular basis. my answer is a standard "potatoes are life, potatoes are my comfort food. now get off my lawn" edit: i am willing to do an all potato diet but its not like i hate anything else, i just cant h…

When you say you are asked on a regular basis… What basis is that? Once a week? Once a month? I have never had anyone so interested in my diet and I am a little jealous. Also who are these people and what impels them to be so interested in what you are eating?

"When you say you are asked on a regular basis"

anytime there is a discussion on food, i bring in potatoes into the conversation automatically. i can't help it. its not like people come up to me and ask about my eating habits.

i am willing and have at many times given up a plate of a variety of meats and stuff for a plate of fried/baked potatoes so i bring that up and people start saying stuff...

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Post by bambax »

cheese_goddess wrote: post #166

Anecdotally, that kind of thing sure works. Back in the day my aunt turned from plump and boring to thin and elegant in a couple of months by eating only chicken and rice. However, I think those diets only "work" because they make you starve while filling your belly. I guess what they do to your body is that they deprive it of the vast majority of the nutrients it needs. It makes sense that you'd lose weight then, in…

> However, I think those diets only "work" because they make you starve while filling your belly

Another way they could work is because eating the same thing all day every day is extremely boring and makes you not want to eat at all. It would be the case for the most delicious dish, but it's even truer with bland food.

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Post by cheese_goddess »

silicon2401 wrote: post #165

Potatoes are very high in oxalates, which people at risk of kidney stones (1 in 10 men) are often told to avoid. That alone is enough reason for me to basically never eat potatoes.

I'm a kidney patient and no nephrologist, or any other health worker, has ever advised me not to eat potatoes.

I'll tell you what they all advised me to drastically reduce: salt. How do you feel about salt consumption? Excess salt consumption, typical in western and Asian diets, is a major risk for cardiovascular disease and for kidney disease (not kidney stones... kidney disease).

Are you similarly cautious of a high-salt diet as you are of a high-oxalate diet? I'm really curious.

Re: Potato diet community trial

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Post by mrob »

s-lambert wrote: post #133
mrob wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Potatoes[0]: £0.36/770kcal[1] Rice[2]: £0.45/3650kcal[3] Pasta[4]: £0.46/3710kcal[5] Normalized to rice: Potatoes: 3.79 rice_cost_units/kcal Rice: 1.00 rice_cost_units/kcal Pasta: 1.01 rice_cost_units/kcal Tesco does not list calories for potatoes, and for the dry foods only provides calories for the cooked result, so I used values from the USDA nutrient database. The value for potatoes is optimistic, because the che…

Rice has a satiety index of 138 while potatoes have a satiety index of 323, almost 3 times as much. So you need to eat way less potatoes compared to rice, I don't know if it's a linear scale though but still probably brings potatoes pretty close to rice.

Satiety index affects how much you want to eat, not how much you need to eat.
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