V Language Review

Post by sharedptr » Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 3:53 PM UTC

Tozen wrote: post #157

crazywulf wrote: post #112

I do not understand the hatred, reminds me of the last article of this kind. This language is in alpha. I've been in the Discord community since 2020 and no one would think of recommending the language for production use because it's WIP. Sure the goals are high and a lot of things don't work yet or are shaky but that's the way it is ATM. The wording of the article is simply not appropriate for the fact that the lang…

This is strong point that is conveniently overlooked. That the language is alpha and 0.2.4, should be clue enough that it is a WIP by default (at this point), by those that have actually tried it. Valid criticisms of the language should arguably be more directed towards its issues on GitHub ( https://github.com/vlang/v/issues ), in addition to any blog or article, where the contributors and developers can address the…

Post by super_flanker » Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 5:03 PM UTC

Tozen wrote: post #153

longrod wrote: post #95

I never understood the motivations behind V. It's clearly not a hobby project started out by a developer who is genuinely experimenting with PLs and want to put out something unique. It feels more like a stunt or a flair to either extort money or become famous. All that would be perfectly okay if V did what it claims to do but the author fanatically makes exciting claims but implements only fluff to hide the underlyi…

Let's not discount the hundreds of contributors, sponsors, and other developers that continually make contributions to and improve V. The impression should not be given that V is just a one-man show. Many of the offshoot projects are in collaboration with others, not just the author, who have invested heavily in them and also wanted or helped create them.

Post by ylluminate » Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

super_flanker wrote: post #163

Tozen wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not discount the hundreds of contributors, sponsors, and other developers that continually make contributions to and improve V. The impression should not be given that V is just a one-man show. Many of the offshoot projects are in collaboration with others, not just the author, who have invested heavily in them and also wanted or helped create them.

Even when they are known to be scammers and frauds? V's author is paying others to write things in V (even when basic functionalities don't work as advertised). They don't want to improve the language, they want to create a showcase to attract more funding, that's about it.

Post by amedvednikov » Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

ghusbands wrote: post #158

delian66 wrote: post #119

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Hate mail? Really? Care to post an example?

Hate mail is fairly typical in these circumstances. So is people asking for evidence. The possible next stages are also predictable: 1. They don't post it, and get accused of lying. 2. They post one of the tamer examples, and get accused of overreacting to nothing. 3. They post a median example, and get told that people reacting with vigour is normal and it's not about them. 4. They post a very strong example, hurtin…

Post by amedvednikov » Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 5:11 PM UTC

theamk wrote: post #77

Tozen wrote: post #50

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That's interesting or telling, because if you read what I posted carefully, I was not insinuating anything about your evaluation. Instead, the point was being made that you probably don't want to be associated with an old evaluation from 3 years ago, which is falsely accusing V of being vaporware, and where the author and the developer of V clearly have beefs with each other.

What do you mean "falsely accusing"? Looks like Xe's blog was correct, V was vaporware back than. According to this post, it still kinda is.. At least the most interesting parts like unique memory management is 100% vaporware.