Atom was my first text editor when I was getting serious into learning software development. Sharing this neat video for those who hasn't seen it yet:
Sunsetting Atom
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#162I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…
You're deploying via VS Code? If so, that's a weird pattern.
I've been using VS Code for years to write JavaScript/TypeScript, Python, Go, Terraform, and CSS. My settings file is 60 lines, 42 of which are "for file extension X use autoformatter Y" configs.
When I first switched to VS Code I was frustrated trying to make it conform to random expectations I had. Eventually I learned that it's easier to embrace VS Code's defaults for 99% of things. I just want an IDE that works well (nearly) out-of-the-box and VS Code gives me that
Re: Sunsetting Atom
#163I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…
I use IDEA and VS Code and Notepad++ and ... I'm kind of surprised you did a deploy from VS Code. I would have assumed there was another tool for that. I do most of my git and ssh/scp stuff from the command line because I'm never quite sure what the tool will try to do to "help me out"
For myself it's all about reducing the delay between "writing code" and "seeing the results". Dropping down to scp or run a script to deploy files seems like an unnecessary delay/break in my development process that I don't like adding in.
If you can develop 100% locally this isn't an issue but we can't (or haven't taken the time to do so). Think of the dev server as just a VM running locally and it might make more sense.
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#164Every now and then I’m reminded of why I decided to stop chasing the shiny new and just go back to emacs.
Emacs is up and running for the last 40 years and it will be for the next 40.
Definitely is a software you can bet on.
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#165It's what kickstarted Electron which eventually gave us VSCode, Slack, and lots of HN comments about memory usage. It also had the sweetest default theme of any code editor. RIP.
Electron is both an amazing enabling technology, and also an artifact of the sad state of affairs for computing platforms.
One could imagine a world where strong standards have been established which would allow you to easily deploy lean native applications across a wide variety of platforms.
Instead we ended up in this bizzare world where if you want to maintain a desktop GUI app, you either need a large team to support multiple platforms, or you need to target minified javascript of all things, and run your software on top of a large, arcane compatibility layer.
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#166It's what kickstarted Electron which eventually gave us VSCode, Slack, and lots of HN comments about memory usage. It also had the sweetest default theme of any code editor. RIP.
Does anyone remember brackets? I cant remember if brackets or atom came first but I remember switching from sublime to brackets to atom. Good times, I heard DHH is still using TextMate.
I still use Textmate, think it's actually excellent these days and still updated a few times a year.
Spellcheck always works, nothing ever crashes and acts weird I run it for 10+ months without issue. VSCode on my PC the spell check is inconsistent and weird and on a long enough timeline it actually crashes the whole operating system if you leave it open.
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#167Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it
I went back to try Sublime lately and.. it's lost a lot of the minimalism that attracted me to it initially. That was the same reason why I loved Atom during it's golden years before it got too slow. Right now I am using a very stripped down VSCode, which is.. fine. It works. I don't love it but it gets the job done usually. Any other good editors on the minimal side? I need a bit more than vim/emacs, but I don't wan…
Have you tried neovim with any of the lsp integrations? I’m not going to pretend it’s trivial to set up, but the result seems very powerful. If you just want to dip your toes without doing that he setup yourself, I believe there are some prepackaged options eg onivim which you can try out.
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#168Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it
TIL I'm a Williamsburg corpo-hipster.
This entire time I thought I used Sublime because it was a fast enough, full of features, battle tested editor, that also wasn't a bloated IDE nor an exercise in self flagellation (i.e. choosing to use an command line editor with a high learning curve like Vim or Emacs).
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#169Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it
No 4Chan tier comments here please.
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#170I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…
For Java dev, VSCode just can't compete with IDEA. For JS/Typescript/PHP, VScode is fine, but it doesn't beat PHPStorm intellisense and code quality tools.
But one is free, the other is paid...