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Re: 'Old white guy' can move forward with workplace bias suit against AT&T

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Post by Thermosetty » Thu, Jun 09, 2022, 12:44 AM UTC

helloworld11 wrote: post #155

Thermosetty wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course you see yourself differently as an "Eastern European" - Those distinctions don't translate to the US because when juxtaposed with darker skinned people (particularly the Descendants of Slaves in the US), the differences between Europeans becomes negligible. Eg - When the Irish/Italians immigrated here in the 20th century they were initially seen as "other" but after a few decades "graduated" to white. So ye…

No. Whatever qualities, privileges or detriments that ignorant others ascribe to my skin color are not my fault or my responsibility to feel guilty over. This applies in all cases for anyone of any color. What's more, your simplistic, ignorant color-based dismissal of an entire and enormous range of historical, cultural and personal history differences between certain eastern Europeans and certain other Europeans is…

Calm down - I never indicated any of that.

In a functional sense when compared to darker skinned, non European people; in the US specifically, European cultural differences are far less significant as they are in Europe.

This isn't limited to Europeans, clearly.

Re: 'Old white guy' can move forward with workplace bias suit against AT&T

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Post by skinnymuch » Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 3:45 AM UTC

helloworld11 wrote: post #155

Thermosetty wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course you see yourself differently as an "Eastern European" - Those distinctions don't translate to the US because when juxtaposed with darker skinned people (particularly the Descendants of Slaves in the US), the differences between Europeans becomes negligible. Eg - When the Irish/Italians immigrated here in the 20th century they were initially seen as "other" but after a few decades "graduated" to white. So ye…

No. Whatever qualities, privileges or detriments that ignorant others ascribe to my skin color are not my fault or my responsibility to feel guilty over. This applies in all cases for anyone of any color. What's more, your simplistic, ignorant color-based dismissal of an entire and enormous range of historical, cultural and personal history differences between certain eastern Europeans and certain other Europeans is…

This isn’t about feeling guilty about your skin color. Sure some “progressives” incorrectly think that. Not a huge deal.

Re: 'Old white guy' can move forward with workplace bias suit against AT&T

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Post by helloworld11 » Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 5:45 AM UTC

yieldcrv wrote: post #158

helloworld11 wrote: post #39

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I don't speak for your family history in a personal sense and I get your main point about the ridiculous absurdity of racial groupings, but Islamic states and kingdoms which include the Arabic peninsula, were also notorious slave states for centuries. Again, despite many PC narratives, slavery was hardly the exclusive province of European colonial powers working against oppressed others around the world. Again though…

> Again, despite many PC narratives, slavery was hardly the exclusive province of European colonial powers working against oppressed others around the world. Which PC narrative suggests otherwise? I'm not familiar which one pretends and relies on the exclusion of various slave trades, can you elaborate?

Let's be serious. Have you never once spoken to a crowd of people that self identifies as woke or some combination of qualities that amount to the same essential definition? I have, with many of them and yes, among quite a number of people, the dominant narrative is of constantly making reference to "Eurocentric hegemonic" historical cultural destruction/oppression with disdain for any mention of the very well established historical facts of many other cultures doing exactly the same things. None of this is to minimize the long European history of colonial oppression, but it's certainly not trait that's particular to that continent or its different cultures.