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Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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post #67

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finding a cool article while I'm sitting on the couch and sending it to my desktop so I can read it later Isn't that just a link? I solve this by having a list of links on the web that I can access from everywhere.

Or you know, just drag the url to the desktop. I'm more concerned with Firefox's lack of per-tab screenshare in meet/jitsi/etc.

Please show me how to drag a url from my phone to my Linux desktop.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#164
post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

Google Chrome for iOS (well, iPadOS to be precise) will send a web page (not a tab) to desktop Chrome. I know because I do it regularly. The disadvantage of that app is that it lets through most ads blocked by the combination of Safari and the ad blocker Wipr (and I have not bothered to look for an ad blocker that works better with Chrome on iPadOS) with the result that I do most of my iOS browsing in Safari, which means that before I can send a page to my desktop, I usually need to "send" it to the Chrome app, which requires 3 taps, the first of which is a tap on the "share" button near the top right corner of the Safari app. But even with those 3 taps, it ends up being an easier method than the method that begins with my using the same "share" button to mail the page's URL to myself.

I also send pages in the opposite direction.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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I've always stuggled with NewPipe, not because of NewPipe itself, but because YouTube and it's algorthim. People act as if the algorthim is some sort of evil entity, but my viewing habbits follow recommended videos and content aware search. I find sticking to subscriptions and trending videos to be very trapping.

Funny, for me it's the opposite. I'm very glad to have only default un-personalised suggestions, plus my hand-curated subscriptions. No more watching one chess video and being bombarded with chess content for a month, or watching one harmless satirical video about a politician and being bombarded with videos from the local right-populist party propaganda channel (yes, this has happened to me exactly as described).

Fair enough, one of us may have been lucky/unlucky with how content is served to us.

I have experience the "bombardment" of a suggestion, but I think my subscriptions are vaired enough that a click off that topic straightens it all out.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#166
post #4

One more reason: firefox will work on older Macs. Case in point: Chrome started to misbehave on my fathers rather old Macbook (missing root certs, refuses to render google drive, etc...) When I open Google drive, after being a completely cryptic (to a non-tech person) set of error messages, I realized I needed to upgrade Chrome. I tried to upgrade Chrome and was told I'm on an unsupported version of OSX. I tried to u…

That's strange. Chrome says it requires MacOS 10.11, Firefox says it requires MacOS 10.12. Based on that it would appear that Chrome is supporting older versions of MacOS than Firefox.

MacOS 10.11 supports every 2008 and newer Apple computer. There are also patches to get newer versions of MacOS on old hardware. I'm using one patch to get 10.13 running on a 2008 MacBook Pro and it runs great.

http://dosdude1.com/software.html

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#167
post #58

I use Libre Wolf, which is a pre-configured Firefox with enhanced privacy. They still support the FF Sync stuff. Similarly for vscode, there is vscodium.

I wish LibreWolf supported Firefox Sync. I appreciate how they removed Firefox's sell-out advertising, promotions for Mozilla Corporation products, and telemetry by default. But I couldn't get sync to work; it's my main blocker from using it as my daily driver. (Some smaller annoyances as a developer are not having about:crashes to examine, debug, and upload coredumps on an opt-in basis, and Firefox Profiler not having LibreWolf's C++ symbols.)

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#168

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Hi, thanks for replying with information. You seem to more than me about the current situation, i'm happy to learn more. So the above (synstorage-rs_in_container) is now the only required software needed, and now includes the identity-server portion? I would really like to use the "beam-a-tab-to-some-other-firefox", been a FF user since before it got that name. But i wanted to self-host all parts, and then found some…

I don't think Mozilla has a recent write-up (blog post) about the Sync Server. The most recent one I found is an announcement from 2020, which explains some of Mozilla's motivations: https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2020/09/15/the-future-of-s... But, as you mentioned, the current documentation is here: https://mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/run... You might also find the unofficial Arch User Reposi…

The syncserver is the trivial part. The less-well-documented web of 5-8 fxa-yxzablgt services (FX-Account-server) that you need to also run is the issue. The docker github readme warns against anything but "messing around" type usage, and the last update there was 7 years ago. ( fxa-content-server fxa-profile-server fxa-auth-server fxa-oauth-server browserid-verifier fxa-auth-db-mysql )

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

#169

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No it wouldn't, that's just pessimism. The entire HN community switching would have massive second-order effects. People would see experts (us) using it, we'd promote it and install it for people, we'd speak positively about it, we'd develop with it, etc. (I won't write the whole list.)

Not only that. Every few weeks I come across a site that works better in Chrome than in FF or has some quirks (Google's spreadsheets are a good example - they feel slower in FF). Although I have no hope of changing the mindset of HNers working at Google, the rest of us could make a difference.

Yeah I hate that. I still have a problem seeing comments on youtube in firefox, even when I'm logged in. Not sure we're going to be able to fix if google targets their properties to only their browser, outside of a lawsuit or gov't action.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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post #152

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No it wouldn't, that's just pessimism. The entire HN community switching would have massive second-order effects. People would see experts (us) using it, we'd promote it and install it for people, we'd speak positively about it, we'd develop with it, etc. (I won't write the whole list.)

> People would see experts (us) using it, we'd promote it and install it for people, we'd speak positively about it, we'd develop with it, etc. (I won't write the whole list.) I wasn't super paying attention at the time, but wasn't that basically how Firefox initially established itself at the expense of Internet Explorer?

Pretty much. People say that tech people switching doesn't do anything, but when tech people switch, semi-technical people get it via osmosis (forum posts for FF the first time, presumably reddit posts today). Suddenly when someone asks their friend that's slightly more technical than them for a recommendation, they get recommended the new thing instead of the old one.

Whole process takes a couple years or so.

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