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Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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In real engineering, you try to figure out what might happen if your system fails. In ‘financial engineering’ you assume failure won’t happen, and get caught with your pants down when it does.

" A sound banker, alas, is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him." John Maynard Keynes

Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM / AWS / Microsoft

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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> whether Tether is fully collateralized ultimately doesn't matter. As long as there are well-capitalized parties (Bitfinex, other exchanges) that want to prop up Tether, it will be fine This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. The problem is the entangled financial health of the backer (in this case, Bitfinex and other crypto exchanges) with the backee (Tether). If creditors…

>This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. I have a radical idea that I'm fairly sure would get me killed if I ever stood a chance of implementing it: A complete ban on all non-productive financial schemes. We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. The "futures trader" extracting value from the system…

what do you do sell us ads?

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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> whether Tether is fully collateralized ultimately doesn't matter. As long as there are well-capitalized parties (Bitfinex, other exchanges) that want to prop up Tether, it will be fine This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. The problem is the entangled financial health of the backer (in this case, Bitfinex and other crypto exchanges) with the backee (Tether). If creditors…

>This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. I have a radical idea that I'm fairly sure would get me killed if I ever stood a chance of implementing it: A complete ban on all non-productive financial schemes. We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. The "futures trader" extracting value from the system…

Dude go look up why futures were even created. They fix a real problem.

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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Tether has attestations, too. They're not audits; Tether got caught moving money in right before an attestation check, and moving it out right after. https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2021/attorney-general-james-... > In the face of persistent questions about whether the company actually held sufficient funds, Tether published a self-proclaimed ‘verification’ of its cash reserves, in 2017, that it characterized as “a g…

The difference is that USDC is run by a US-based public corporation and its managers are US citizens that live in the US. If USDC is a fraud (or even just materially misrepresented), they go to jail. Is that a guarantee? No, but I don't understand why anyone would use USDT instead of USDC. [edit: s/UST/USDT]

Maybe! First, they have to get caught; Bernie Madoff managed to run his ponzi for decades, running the value up to $65B. Jail for misrepresentation is pretty rare; IIRC only one person in the entire 2009 financial crisis wound up with jail time.

> No, but I don't understand why anyone would use UST instead of USDC.

That's fair, I just don't understand using either.

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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The UK Pound is still considered an international reserve currency by virtue of being incorporated into IMF special drawing rights, even though the UK no longer really has a vast military or substantial colonial possessions.

They still have the ability to put nuclear warheads anywhere on the globe, by virtue of their ballistic missile submarines and the nuclear warheads those ballistic missiles carry. The Trident D5 missiles have a range of more than 7,500 miles, and the submarines move. That, in and of itself, is worth a lot -- potentially even more than having a large military.

I saw a trident missile launch once in 2017. Didn’t know it at the time. Everyone should know about those missiles—they are the reason we don’t have “real” war.

They are so unbelievably powerful it blows my mind.

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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… At what odds?

1:1

Given that the other crypto people offering “keep me honest” bets are offering 5:1, 10:1, and 25:1, on better terms, no, that’s not interesting, but I’ll write you a free option to laugh about me over the Internet if it turns you you’re right.

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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Its pretty frustrating that people are using these shady stablecoins where you can't see the code or assets backing them (eg USDT), when there are stablecoins that are fully open source and you can see the backing in real time (eg DAI)

DAI is to Ether as Terra was to Luna?

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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> whether Tether is fully collateralized ultimately doesn't matter. As long as there are well-capitalized parties (Bitfinex, other exchanges) that want to prop up Tether, it will be fine This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. The problem is the entangled financial health of the backer (in this case, Bitfinex and other crypto exchanges) with the backee (Tether). If creditors…

>This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. I have a radical idea that I'm fairly sure would get me killed if I ever stood a chance of implementing it: A complete ban on all non-productive financial schemes. We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. The "futures trader" extracting value from the system…

"The "futures trader" extracting value from the system buying/selling futures has done no "real" work"

Small farmers hedging next years crop would like a word with you ...

... and there are one hundred examples just like that.

Did you ever convert foreign currencies in advance of an international trip when you saw the currency pair move favorably ? Have you ever bought an ETF ? Do you have a mortgage in the United States ?

All of these things are possible because of a highly liquid, regulated market with diverse participants ...

... which brings us to the obligatory Margin Call[1] quote:

"Jesus, Seth. Listen, if you really wanna do this with your life you have to believe you're necessary and you are. People wanna live like this in their cars and big fuckin' houses they can't even pay for, then you're necessary. The only reason that they all get to continue living like kings is cause we got our fingers on the scales in their favor. I take my hand off and then the whole world gets really fuckin' fair really fuckin' quickly and nobody actually wants that. They say they do but they don't. They want what we have to give them but they also wanna, you know, play innocent and pretend they have no idea where it came from."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_Call

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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> whether Tether is fully collateralized ultimately doesn't matter. As long as there are well-capitalized parties (Bitfinex, other exchanges) that want to prop up Tether, it will be fine This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. The problem is the entangled financial health of the backer (in this case, Bitfinex and other crypto exchanges) with the backee (Tether). If creditors…

>This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. I have a radical idea that I'm fairly sure would get me killed if I ever stood a chance of implementing it: A complete ban on all non-productive financial schemes. We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. The "futures trader" extracting value from the system…

As a non sarcastic response I would note that financial intermediation exists for the purposes of transforming types and durations of risks between people/firms trying to offload from / take on that risk.

This is how things like 30 year fixed rate mortgages, low fee index ETFs, target date retirement funds, fixed price home heating oil contracts, every form of insurance, etc can exist in the consumer space.

In the B2B space you have all the companies with needs to lock in prices for future inputs in order to control costs & plan their own output pricing, etc.

All of this has greatly reduced the boom-bust cycle of the pre-Fed economy. As bad as 2000 or 2008 may have felt, they were nothing like the great depression of numerous 19th century recessions & depressions.

Re: Tether Required Recapitalization in May 2022

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>This is true for every pile of toxic crap that's ever been financially engineered. I have a radical idea that I'm fairly sure would get me killed if I ever stood a chance of implementing it: A complete ban on all non-productive financial schemes. We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. The "futures trader" extracting value from the system…

> We have an entire parasite class that grown unfathomably wealthy while providing no real value to the rest of society. Measuring people by how much 'value' they bring to society is a real slippery slope, my friend

Yeah. Big “social credit system is good, actually” brain there..
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