In Ubuntu if you log in with your Gmail, you can mount the drive to your filesystem.
10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
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Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
#162Just give us a web filesystem already. Stop with these shitty infantilized GUIs with no hierarchical organization and an overreliance on search to find things. I have literally hundreds of thousands to millions of files on my local machines and have no trouble remembering where I put things. Drive can't seem to scale past a few dozen before it's confusing, useless, and apparently lossy. Remember when web servers woul…
Actually Google did made a version of Google Drive Filestream for Linux, and made it available it Google Colab, just that they never released it publicly for unknown reason. I have grabbed the binary of it. https://github.com/michaellee8/gdrivefs/tree/master/assets
There are quite a few clients for Linux, I use Syncdocs https://www.syncdocs.com/ as it has built in encryption.
Non I've seen do a proper job of mounting as a drive, NFS or SMB would be nice.
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be even more confusing, it’s also possible to chat and video conference with the Gmail app. But maybe this changes tomorrow who knows?
They removed the ability to install the dedicated chat app and moved it all into the Gmail app. Infuriating. Oh, and it opens all links on the built-in chrome browser instead of respecting your default browser settings. There is no option to change the behavior.
> They removed the ability to install the dedicated chat app and moved it all into the Gmail app.
The first part of it is not true (but the second part is true, in that you can access chats from Gmail as well).
I just checked, and Google Chat exists as a separate app on iOS, Android, and web (chat.google.com). Even though the web version redirects to a gmail url (mail.google.com/chat), it is still a separate web version, not embedded into gmail. The only thing it shares with gmail is its subdomain, the page itself has zero mention of gmail or any gmail-related functionality.
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
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Why not? It's a cloud service that stores files, can pretend to have directories, and for which there exist multiple utilities to mount the thing as a local file system. What's the shortcoming?
S3 is object storage not block storage. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/object-stor... Object storage isn’t random access (the ability to read and write any part of a file) the way a disk drive is. This causes complications for software that expects to be able to randomly access a file like they would on a disk.
WebDAV is also an object storage protocol but it can do random access. Well, almost.
Partial reads are supported everywhere out of box just by using the Content-Range HTTP header.
Partial writes aren't standard, but some implementations e.g. SabreDAV can do those using PATCH with X-Update-Range header (and e.g. rclone supports this).
WebDAV has its warts and limitations but it's a very underappreciated protocol.
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
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There's Google Chat, which is really made for companies but available on normal accounts too, and Google Messages, their SMS/MMS/RCS app for Android, which requires that you have an Android phone and a phone plan.
Not to be confused with Chat, which is inside the Google Messages app, which is RCS.
That's actually "Chat Features"
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
#166I just want to collect the major options for Google Drive on Linux in a single comment, since a few options are scattered around: Insync works well, and it's 50% off for a couple more days: https://www.insynchq.com/ Not affiliated, but $15 is not a lot to pay, as opposed to waiting for something that probably won't happen. Rclone has support for Google Drive, and it's open source: https://rclone.org/ There's a comman…
> Gnome supports Google Drive, or at least used to, directly in Nautilus. I don't use Gnome, so I can't comment.
I'm using it right now. It is not particularly responsive (perform an operation and it looks like no operation is happening until the remote end responds) but works well enough for copying files in and out via nautilus if you don't expect instant feedback.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's Google Chat, which is really made for companies but available on normal accounts too, and Google Messages, their SMS/MMS/RCS app for Android, which requires that you have an Android phone and a phone plan.
Also Hangouts, Meet, Duo, Allo, Spaces. I don't even know if all of them are alive now, and I don't care enough to check.
Hangouts is just another client for Google Chat now, Allo is dead, and Spaces is a feature of Google Chat. Meet and Duo are not chat apps really, but there is a pretty clear separation in that Meet is primarily designed for business meetings (competes with Zoom) and Duo is more primarily for personal use (competes with FaceTime)
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
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I've posted this link before in comments, but for anyone who's not read this arstechnica piece it is well worth it: A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-...
> A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps How do they keep failing over and over, in the same way, when these failures are a well-known embarrassment? You'd think the CEO would either just ban development of new messaging apps or pick a winner and give it the same kind of care and feeding as GMail.
My guess is because things like that don't make any or much direct revenue, so they aren't going to get senior executives to want to take ownership and champion the thing.
Killing a chat product that has always been a net loss for the company might not appear to be a failure.
Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive
#170It feels like Google’s attention span, leadership longevity, and product development patience is roughly 3 years. Any product that survives longer than that probably has transcended beyond being a “pet project/toy” into a PR-problem or revenue-stream significant enough that it takes on a life of it’s own. As management turns over, that lease on life is renewed… https://killedbygoogle.com/ While this fosters new ideas…
You nailed it. Every 3 years google renames and rebadges their chat system. I don't even know what to call it anymore.
> I don't even know what to call it anymore.
Google.