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Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

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Re: Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

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So does this imply that women have lower levels than similarly exposed men?

I assume you mean due to menstruation? It highly depends on the individual, ethnicity, health, build, etc, but the amount of actual blood (vs mucus and non-blood fluid discharge) released in a cycle isn't as much as you might think. So the answer is probably "somewhat but negligibly so?"

Well it happens frequently. So maybe the amount is low per occurrence, but the cumulative amount may be larger than a typical man who doesn't donate at all, right?

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#163

So does this imply that women have lower levels than similarly exposed men?

Unless you move away from the source of contamination you'll just replenish it with your blood. Given that these chemicals seem to be omnipresent in our environment you are probably out of luck.

Doesn't that negate the logic of the article?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody knows the threshold above which intervening is a good idea or worth the effort, so universal testing seems like jumping the gun a little.

People said similar things about lead...

The people vested in using lead in fuel said so out of profit motive, but it seems lead was widely known to be harmful for hundreads of years [0] before it was using it fuel.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3dnLzthDA

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This is the first example of detoxifying your body might actually be real.

Detoxification/cleansing has always been real, in the alternative and conventional/allopathic medical worlds. I don't know any school of thought that denies the benefits of cleansing (within reason); only those who disagree on how to go about it.

The problem is the best thing to detoxify is your bodies organs and healthy function of them should be priority numero uno.

I think fad diets are the terrority where it gets a bit unreasonable (juice cleanses?). Chakra/Qi cleanses?

Re: Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

#166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not, honestly. For most tests, the risks associated with a false positive outweigh the benefits of marginally earlier detection. Humans aren't precise machines, each person has different values and different value ranges for standard measurements - and asymptomatic deviations frequently mean nothing whatsoever. On the other hand investigations can be invasive, painful, risky and expensive. There's a reason m…

That's the whole point of establishing a baseline.

I don't know why this comment is downvoted. Let me elaborate a little on what I think they meant.

All the risks associated with false positives (other than the side effects of actually drawing blood once a year, which I think is negligible) can be removed by simply not overreacting. Find a cancer? Well, consider not subjecting yourself to chemo just to get rid of it. Some cancers will kill you by winter, some will just stay there until you die of something else. How will we know which is which? By testing lots of people over long periods of time to see what's harmless and what's actually really bad. Or as the previous commenter said: "That's the whole point of establishing a baseline."

Re: Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

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Sheesh, I can't believe the percent of negative comments! Someone finally figured a way to reduce PFAS. It's a hugely positive finding, especially in light of people being able to keep their red blood cells. Hopefully it can be ruled as a safe long-term solution for now. Looking forward to reading updates on this research. And btw, donating plasma doesn't mean other people will get your PFAS; many things can be done…

Even if someone else would get your PFAS its most likely they have them as well and its certainly better than dying of blood loss or not treating other serious issues that rely on various blood products.

There are diseases where you get regular transfusions. For these patients, PFAS would become a problem since they are, by definition, not subject to degradation. Unless, of course, the patients are physically losing blood.

Which makes me wonder if women have a specific advantage on this matter. I do remember reading that regular blood donations show health benefits, and that women get them "for free", so to speak. This may be part of the reason.

Re: Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

#168

I know some people are jumping on the idea that these "forever chemicals" just get passed onto the blood recipient, but that misses the "Regular" part. Sure, the first few donations have the higher concentrations of those chemicals, but subsequent donations have fewer forever chemicals. The more you do it, the better quality it becomes.

There are quite a few regular recipients of blood products, however. It's processed quite a bit (read: separated into its constituent parts and reassembled for what is needed, much like orange juice) which may already filter the stuff.

Re: Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if someone else would get your PFAS its most likely they have them as well and its certainly better than dying of blood loss or not treating other serious issues that rely on various blood products.

There are diseases where you get regular transfusions. For these patients, PFAS would become a problem since they are, by definition, not subject to degradation. Unless, of course, the patients are physically losing blood. Which makes me wonder if women have a specific advantage on this matter. I do remember reading that regular blood donations show health benefits, and that women get them "for free", so to speak. Th…

Our recent cavemen ancestors probably got injured and bled a bit much more often than we do.

It's not hard to imagine the human body optimizing for those conditions, which would make permanently holding onto all your blood suboptimal.

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