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‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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Fully in favor of this. I recently had to cancel a subscription that had no "cancel subscription" button and instead forced you to contact customer service so they could try to sell you on discounts and etc. No, just let me cancel and get on with my day. Unfortunately, it seems health clubs(and I assume gyms?) are exempt from this when they are like 80% of the problem.

Health clubs rely on 90% of their members never showing up. If they all cancelled, there'd be no more health clubs.

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Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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Fully in favor of this. I recently had to cancel a subscription that had no "cancel subscription" button and instead forced you to contact customer service so they could try to sell you on discounts and etc. No, just let me cancel and get on with my day. Unfortunately, it seems health clubs(and I assume gyms?) are exempt from this when they are like 80% of the problem.

Health clubs rely on 90% of their members never showing up. If they all cancelled, there'd be no more health clubs.

How will taxis survive?? Their business model depends on scarcity. If anyone could give anyone a ride, there'd be no more rides.

Am I properly capturing the nuance of your argument? Feel free to re-echo another round of hearsay into the chamber.

Maybe you can dig more into the philosophy you have where securing profitability entitles you to the protection of those profits via legislation.

Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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Also I’d like to add that your claim that the gyms would be 10x more expensive and that most would close is baseless. In Sweden there are gyms everywhere even though their are consumer protections against exactly this sort of thing. The gyms in Sweden are generally cheaper than the IS as well. I’m not going to draw a general conclusion from this other than “it’s complicated”. The fact is you don’t really know how gym…

My basis is that I was told by a couple gym owners that 90% never show up to use the gym, and their business model depended on that. I haven't examined their books myself. Like I wrote, I'm not making a value judgement here, just pointing out the consequences. The business model may still be the same in Sweden. It's just that people are too lazy to cancel, not that they cannot cancel. I never had trouble canceling an…

I think it’s more that people are aspirational about going to the gym, so they don’t cancel. Some gyms also have fixed term contract as to within which you can’t cancel. But this is at least advertised up front so people know what they’re getting in to.

Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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I can't advocate privacy.com enough for these shenanigans! Issuing a credit card for each vendor - with spend caps or close the card whenever. If I can't find your cancel service page within five minutes of searching; I just close the card and am done.

They are allowed to send your bills to collection. They probably won’t, but don’t count on it. Not paying your bills is not a legally protected way of cancelling.

Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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I'm not actually making a value judgement on that. Just pointing out the consequences maybe not what was intended.

Also I’d like to add that your claim that the gyms would be 10x more expensive and that most would close is baseless. In Sweden there are gyms everywhere even though their are consumer protections against exactly this sort of thing. The gyms in Sweden are generally cheaper than the IS as well. I’m not going to draw a general conclusion from this other than “it’s complicated”. The fact is you don’t really know how gym…

>Arguing against it is like arguing for some weird mini welfare for gyms on the backs of random members of the population.

Basically where a lot of education funding comes from. (Lotteries)

Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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The result of lobbying, maybe?

Almost certainly, imo. Were I a VC, part of my model to identify industries ripe for tech disruption would be to find those that get legislative sweetheart deals that don't benefit the taxpayer.

Ooo I just had an idea:

Uber but for lobbying

Re: ‘Click to Cancel’ legislation introduced in Pennsylvania

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Health clubs rely on 90% of their members never showing up. If they all cancelled, there'd be no more health clubs.

How will taxis survive?? Their business model depends on scarcity. If anyone could give anyone a ride, there'd be no more rides. Am I properly capturing the nuance of your argument? Feel free to re-echo another round of hearsay into the chamber. Maybe you can dig more into the philosophy you have where securing profitability entitles you to the protection of those profits via legislation.

Simple, if market doesn't want them, they should probably enter in other field. In long run, it is inevitable? I do acknowledge there is problem in switching careers.
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