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Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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The snap thing makes me want to switch distro (for work) from ubuntu. Unfortunately we have some benefits from using ubuntu as the common platform for less divergence from each other

Try one of the variants like Pop_OS! they use flatpaks as a replacement for snaps and it works well. I've moved all my ubuntu systems over to it without any issues. The KDE version is nearly as nice as the stock version (looks-wise) if you're a KDE person, which I am.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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> But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and uninstall snapd altogether? There seem to be more and more things that are only delivered as snaps. I haven't used Ubuntu on the desktop in a while (and even then, it was just trying it out), but I remember that trying to apt install would say "use the snap". I think LXD is in that case, for exa…

I recommend Fedora to everyone wanting a desktop alternative to Ubuntu. It's a well-balanced distribution that is opinionated enough to work fine as-is but doesn't try to force things on you the way Ubuntu does with snaps.

I can't do that because I don't want to update every 6 months. If I wanted to do that I'd just move to arch/endeavour.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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I personally use ubuntu and have used snap enough to get thoroughly burned and annoyed by it. Slow starts, no auto-update controls with bad defaults corrupting running programs, spammed mount points... (edit: see comment below for some limited controls to reduce the frequency of auto-updates) But, unless I'm missing something about latest or future releases, isn't it still optional? Can't you use apt instead and unin…

Firefox is only available as snap now. I gues it's bthe same for other apps. For VSCode I managed to download a deb from their site IIRC, but from apt it only suggests to download from snap.

flatpak is a great alternative and it works well on ubuntu. Although I've just moved wholesale over to pop_os with flatpaks and LTS version.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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We switched over to Fedora, way better

I'm switching to debian my next install. It's similar enough internally

I suggest pop_os if you like ubuntu but are tired of stuff like snaps and such, but still like the idea of an LTS

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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If you're a programmer I'd say Arch or Debian then configure as per your needs. As long as you don't do things blindly it will be very stable and blazing fast.

In my experience, Manjaro is a great, user-friendly version of Arch. YMMV, but I highly recommend it!

I think manjaro suffers breakage too much. These days I tell people to look into endeavour since they still use (mostly) arch repos and thus cause much less breaking with the using AUR packages if you're into those.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Pop!_OS is a solid Ubuntu-based distro that uses Flatpak in place of Snap (among many other great decisions).

This is why I don't use it anymore: https://support.system76.com/articles/enable-hibernation/

That's fine, but my system boots so fast that hibernate is slower. Pop_OS is a very nice distro, particularly the LTS.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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Can someone explain why I'd use snap or flatpak over the distros repo or manual install for something not in the repo or unavailable via adding a repo? Apart from auto-managed updates. Snap and flatpak are massive compared to "traditional" packages.

- disk space (in most cases) is cheap

- they are always up to date and therefore statistically more likely to have security holes fixed

- that are (to an extent) sandboxed by default and give you a lot of control over that.

- for developers it's much easier than maintaining hundreds of fixes for different distro peculiarities. Therefore (for the user) they are able to spend more time on the app itself rather than compatibility

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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sudo apt purge snapd

Does it mean that apt will then install a non-snap version? I haven't verified that, but considering that nothing suggested that I was installing a snap app (other than me not paying attention to apt's output, I guess), I'm not sure if that's even possible. I was planning to stay with 18.04 LTS and then move to something else, but seems like either snap was there already or it has been added after I upgraded.

I don't think so because some apps are only available as snaps. that is less true for 18.04, but 20.04 and 22.04 use snaps fairly heavily and some like firefox only available through snaps, although there is also PPA and flatpaks available.

Re: Disabling automatic refresh for Snap from store

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I really don't understand all these "flatpak is better" comments. It's not. https://ludocode.com/blog/flatpak-is-not-the-future Maybe it is better than snap, but it's not good and its not better than a traditional package, on either philosophical or technical grounds.

It is better on a "keep it updated by the developer" grounds and that's all I need. I liek to have the latest with things like spotify, libreoffice, qbittorrent, etc. I like the sandboxing. Sure it ain't everybody's cup of tea, but you can't discount other people's opinion as "wrong". They're just opinions. I know other people value the aspects of .deb/.rpm only based system, and I have weighed the pros and cons personally. Don't expect that we haven't looked into it for ourselves by default.
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