Live data from Hacker News

Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

anandtech.com

161–170 of 183 posts

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#161

The Tensor cores will be great for machine learning and the FP32/FP64 fantastic for HPC, but I'd be surprised if there were a lot of applications using both of these features at once. I wonder if there's room for a competitor to come in and sell another huge accelerator but with only one of these two features either at a lower price or with more performance? Perhaps the power density would be too high if everything w…

Can different tenant VMs access different parts of H100 in parallel?

If so, it may be a reasonable mix.

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#162

The Tensor cores will be great for machine learning and the FP32/FP64 fantastic for HPC, but I'd be surprised if there were a lot of applications using both of these features at once. I wonder if there's room for a competitor to come in and sell another huge accelerator but with only one of these two features either at a lower price or with more performance? Perhaps the power density would be too high if everything w…

> room for a competitor to come in and sell another huge accelerator but with only one of these two features either at a lower price or with more performance?

They'd need fab capacity first. I wouldn't count on it any time soon, and chip gens have short lives.

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#163
post #122
post #67

And may be taking this opportunity to ask, what happen to Nvidia's leak? The hacker hasn't made any more news, and Nvidia hasn't provide an update either.

In the keynote, Jensen made a sly remark about how they themselves could benefit a lot from one of their cyberthreat AI solutions.

I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up "collaborating"

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#164
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just blew my mind. That did not occur to me, but it is obvious in retrospect.

Sure, but the way Nvidia names generations is far from obvious. It seems to be “names of famous scientists, progressing in alphabetical order, we skip some letters if we can’t find a well known scientist with a matching last name and are excited about a scientist 2 letters from now, we wrap around to the beginning of the alphabet when we get to the end, and we just skipped from A to H, so expect another wraparound in…

[deleted]

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#165
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just blew my mind. That did not occur to me, but it is obvious in retrospect.

Sure, but the way Nvidia names generations is far from obvious. It seems to be “names of famous scientists, progressing in alphabetical order, we skip some letters if we can’t find a well known scientist with a matching last name and are excited about a scientist 2 letters from now, we wrap around to the beginning of the alphabet when we get to the end, and we just skipped from A to H, so expect another wraparound in…

[deleted]

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#166
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just blew my mind. That did not occur to me, but it is obvious in retrospect.

Sure, but the way Nvidia names generations is far from obvious. It seems to be “names of famous scientists, progressing in alphabetical order, we skip some letters if we can’t find a well known scientist with a matching last name and are excited about a scientist 2 letters from now, we wrap around to the beginning of the alphabet when we get to the end, and we just skipped from A to H, so expect another wraparound in…

Volta (2017) -> Turing (2018)

Volta was HPC only while Turing was consumer line, I guess that may have something to do with the out of order naming sequence.

Then we had Ampere which was dual market. And then split again with Lovelace on the consumer side and Hopper for data centers.

Just guessing here, obvi.

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#169
post #161

The Tensor cores will be great for machine learning and the FP32/FP64 fantastic for HPC, but I'd be surprised if there were a lot of applications using both of these features at once. I wonder if there's room for a competitor to come in and sell another huge accelerator but with only one of these two features either at a lower price or with more performance? Perhaps the power density would be too high if everything w…

Can different tenant VMs access different parts of H100 in parallel? If so, it may be a reasonable mix.

Right now no - the unit of subdivision for MIG is too coarse. Everyone gets the same proportion of each function

Re: Nvidia Hopper GPU Architecture and H100 Accelerator

#170
post #44
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this the norm? Only AMD started the trend of naming the uArch with Numbers as Zen 4 or RDNA 3 fairly recently. With Intel it is Haswell > Broadwell > ..... Whatever Lake.

Usually the architecture name isn't the only distinguishing feature of the product name, you don't need to remember Intel codenames because a Core 12700 is obviously newer than a Core 11700 Nvidia's accelerators are just called 100 every time so if you don't remember the order of the letters it's not obvious They could have just named them P100, V200, A300 and H400 instead

Xeons have that problem too. I guess some companies just assume they only sell their professional equipment to professionals who read the spec sheet before spending 10k+
Post reply on HN