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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by pasquinelli »

notavalleyman wrote: post #63
fleddr wrote: post #50

Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

if i want to use it, why should my browser get the veto?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by thbw »

Throwaway for obvious reasons.

This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)?

Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow them? If you think people are stupid to decide, why do you allow them to even vote for a President of a country?

Why US thinks it is ok to expand NATO to the borders of Russia, but didn't think Soviet military in Cuba is ok?

Where are all liberals fighting for human rights and free speech?

* US invasion - good guys killing bad guys

* Russian invasion - bad guys killing good guys

* China human right violations - "west" only condemns, because we are too much dependent on cheap products.

* US tells Iraq has biological weapons - yeah let's start the war.

* Russia tells Ukraine has biological weapons - yeah, propaganda as usual.

I have so many questions, but pretty sure no one is going to answer them constructively thanks to cancel culture (and the reason for throw away account) where "liberals" cancel you if they don't agree with you, responses I might get "whataboutism"

I am anti-war in all countries, because at the end of the day ordinary people suffer. But why people are demanding protests from Russian people to overthrow Putin (which I doubt they can, unless their military people decide to support) when they weren't able to stop war in Iraq, Afghanistan or any other US invaded country by protesting? Do you think you have moral rights to ask Russian people to do something when you were silent, when you couldn't even save Julian Assange? (by the way I am not Russian)

Stop pretending you are right!

Give other side chance to speak!

As a long time Firefox user, this saddens me!

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by pasquinelli »

dionian wrote: post #86
notavalleyman wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

We used to be able to say AP, Reuters, NYTimes aren't partisan, and we used to be able to joke about RU news being Pravda-style propaganda. Unfortunately, we can no longer really mock the Russians this way with a straight face, as we have now started to look more like Soviet Russia.

> We used to be able to say AP, Reuters, NYTimes aren't partisan

that must've been cool, but it was before my time...

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dTal »

dhdjjd wrote: post #149
dTal wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do seem to be having some difficulty liberating yourselves.

Living without free press is better than being dead. And it doesn't matter to me whether good or bad guys kill me.

Well I think in an ideal world "liberating" would not involve mass murder of the "liberated" population. I am aware that this is a historical weak spot.

Even still - I don't see a problem with countries rescuing other countries from despotism, in principle. I eagerly include my own country in this - if a Putin-like figure arose and I was not permitted to speak out or face death, it would comfort me to know that help was coming. The terror of an oppressive regime is its inescapability.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dataflow »

nix0n wrote: post #40

The release notes for 98.0.1[0] are more clear: > Yandex and Mail.ru have been removed as optional search providers in the drop-down search menu in Firefox. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0.1/releasenotes/

Off-topic, but Firefox is on 98 already? isn't Chrome on 99 too? Was their goal to "catch up" or something?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by BuckRogers »

jwmhjwmh wrote: post #124
CamperBob2 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

> Comparing what Russia is doing in Ukraine to anything the US has done in the last 100 years is an exercise in false equivalence. One so blatant that it defies any attempt to interpret in good faith. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you completely ignorant of history? What about Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Iraq?

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by Dracophoenix »

fortnum wrote: post #100

Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

Have you tried Librewolf?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by nickysielicki »

Destiner wrote: post #152
nickysielicki wrote: post #138

I’ve been using yandex as my open-source/public/spam-heavy email provider for a handful of years. Ignoring the current conflict, the yandex product is pretty good. Their search is, IMO, second only to Google, at least for technical queries. Edit: probably going to just buy a domain and protonmail as a contingency plan, though. Don’t want to lose access.

Definitely consider migrating off Yandex. If (when) it will be required by gov to choose either staying in russia or outside of russia, it will choose the former.

Literally took me 15 minutes. Now to begin the process of changing the email on a few dozen accounts...

me@nslick.com

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by behnamoh »

dataflow wrote: post #165
nix0n wrote: post #40

The release notes for 98.0.1[0] are more clear: > Yandex and Mail.ru have been removed as optional search providers in the drop-down search menu in Firefox. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0.1/releasenotes/

Off-topic, but Firefox is on 98 already? isn't Chrome on 99 too? Was their goal to "catch up" or something?

I remember Mozilla were pretty pissed off at Chrome’s inaccurate versioning that induced a feeling of “chrome is 60 but ff is still on 3.5 so chrome has to be better “.
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