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I'm looking forward to buying one of these as soon as there's good Linux support.
I don't have one (yet?), so I can't speak to how well they actually achieved this goal, though.
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Seriously. No other laptop on the market can do all of: - have an insanely long battery life - stay completely silent - have excellent performance The other laptops which can theoretically beat the MBP at some tasks utterly fail at being silent or having long battery life under load. And the other silent laptops (chromebook maybe) can’t manage heavy workloads. So it is very unique in the laptop space.
I use an M1 Macbook for work and I also have a Framework for personal use and... yeah. I adore the Framework but I really wish there was a REAL non-Apple competitor in the laptop space. The M1 is just _so_ quiet and fast, I really have to try hard to get the fan to spin up. Can't really speak for battery life since it never leaves my desk where it's plugged in haha. It's a shame I despise macOS so much or else I'd us…
That's better than many x86 laptops in full-on sleep mode. With the OS running.
People underestimate just how good modern power management can get when the vendor cares.
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I remember socketed CPUs being a thing on some ThinkPad models.
I don't remember any laptop ever that could support both AMD and Intel CPUs. The chipsets are different.
With 12th gen Intel and Ryzen 6000 knocking on the door, it does not feel right to be pre ordering 11th gen 4c/8t Intel laptops. If I were in the market for a new laptop I would get one of the new 16:10 ThinkPads.
The one thing the ended up keeping me from the Framework laptops was the lack of Home, End, Insert, Delete buttons. Having had a number of Thinkpad machines I have gotten used to using them all the time.
I also quite enjoy that I can put my hands on the keyboard and almost not move them at all while using the little knob for mouse-activities when keyboard shortcuts run out.
Will order one the day there is an AMD option.
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> The mac-book killer was very much hyperbole from paid reviewers. Hold on. Which reviewers received payments in return for positive coverage of the laptop?
Not that I agree with the characterization, but they might be referring to Linus Sebastian of Linux Tech Tips, who invested a bunch of money into the company: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSxbc1IN9Gg
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As someone with a Dell XPS 9310 for work where Linux is a pre-install option, I can tell you it definitely doesn't mean it "just works". The Framework I got for personal use, on the other hand, worked OOTB with a Linux USB installer.
I have an XPS 13 (forget the model number but I think it had an 8th-generation Intel CPU) that came with Linux and it definitely wasn't "just works" when I bought it (sleep/wake was kind-of broken and such) but a month or so later, it did magically start working (and nothing else was really broken).
People elsewhere in this thread complain about the battery in sleep for the Framework, and I confirm the same with mine, but losing a few percent a night is nothing compare to the Dell, which goes from 100 to 0 overnight.
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The sleep then hibernate sounds promising. But is it something you need to configure yourself?
On Linux? Yes. Changing the mode is just a matter of changing one line in one file. But getting hibernate to actually work is a bit of hassle, especially if you have any kind of encryption or non-standard file system. This said - I managed to get mine working on encrypted Btrfs.
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Genuine question here. I run gentoo on an NVMe drive and I have zero reason to use sleep or hibernate as my machine gets to the DE in under 30s. What use cases are there that absolutely requires these features when boot times are so short?
The task I want to do is quick, and I don't want to spend 30 seconds waiting to start something that might finish in less time than that. A bunch of browser tabs are open, and I don't feel like recovering them at relaunch. I have my app windows set up exactly the way I like them, down to the pixel. I'm used to my phone, TV, microwave, wristwatch, stereo, and car not needing to boot up.
I used to have a nasty habit of opening a text editor during the day and taking random notes during phone calls or as I worked. Several forced restarts (administrative, accidental or hardware related) forced me to start using those sticky-note apps. I've moved to Joplin now (very structured, supports markdown, syncs to dropbox periodically, is multiplatform)
The browser thing resonates though. It's not just which websites are open, but what state they're in (ie: logged in, midway through filling out a long form or survey). In a pinch I'll just 'kill -9 firefox' so after the reboot it automatically restores tabs and windows, but it's still messy. Sites that require authentication will just bounce you to the login page and may not "remember" where you were trying to get to. Maybe we need hibernate for browsers.