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Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by hddqsb »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #94
u2077 wrote: post #84

Is there a clone that keeps the old UI and the same answers? (Could possibly scrape the site or twitter posts to determine the answer each day) Wordle isn’t even gone and I already miss it.

Wayback machine https://web.archive.org/web/20220201003547/https://www.power...

Great idea, but this link doesn't really work -- it always has the same secret word, because the Wayback Machine injects some JavaScript to make the Date function return a constant date (try running `console.log(new Date())`).

The link posted by @rossy (with "id_") works fine though.

("id_" stands for "identity" and means to return the original resource without rewriting the content, see https://pywb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/rewriter.html#i...)

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by zem »

Jerrrry wrote: post #86
banana_giraffe wrote: post #48

They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch And removed the following from the list of words that are accepted as guesses (in addition to the above ones): gooks, darky, pussy, spick, spics, bitch, fagot, dyked, coons, spiks, sluts, dykey, faggy, homos, chink, dykes, lesbo, kikes, whore Most of those I get, but why did fibre, agora, and pupal get p…

Agora is the leading drug Darknet Marketplace. That is surely it, it is the only (negative) connotation and incident in culture.

sheesh!

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by throwaway81523 »

dankwizard wrote: post #120
joek1301 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original WORDLE also used minified JavaScript, but there are some resources on reverse engineering it, if all you're interested is learning how the words are picked [1]. [1]: https://reichel.dev/blog/reverse-engineering-wordle.html

It isn't that complex - If you compare the word list in source to the word each day, you'll see that it is just using the list in order.

Ah ok thanks both of you, that suffices. I wondered why the word list was in such a weird order. Any idea if the permutation from alphabetical order is something simple? That would allow membership testing by binary search instead of needing an extra data structure.

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by likpok »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #48

They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch And removed the following from the list of words that are accepted as guesses (in addition to the above ones): gooks, darky, pussy, spick, spics, bitch, fagot, dyked, coons, spiks, sluts, dykey, faggy, homos, chink, dykes, lesbo, kikes, whore Most of those I get, but why did fibre, agora, and pupal get p…

The wordle code has two distinct arrays: the list of answers and the list of other words you can guess. If you carelessly remove words from the answers you will also make it impossible to guess them. I figure they removed some answers without adding them to the acceptable guesses because they didn’t think about it.

Fibre, agora and pupal are a little esoteric. Not as much as many words on the SOWPODS list, but enough to perhaps be annoying.

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by [deleted] »

paxys wrote: post #57
banana_giraffe wrote: post #48

They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch And removed the following from the list of words that are accepted as guesses (in addition to the above ones): gooks, darky, pussy, spick, spics, bitch, fagot, dyked, coons, spiks, sluts, dykey, faggy, homos, chink, dykes, lesbo, kikes, whore Most of those I get, but why did fibre, agora, and pupal get p…

Fibre - confusing British vs American spelling Agora & pupal - probably the repeated letters? Or they are just too obscure.

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Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by [deleted] »

motoxpro wrote: post #145
queuebert wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the creator could have made more money by serving ads or something. I doubt the NYT paid them the full lifetime value of the site. And anyway, isn't the NYT supposed to be reporting news or something? Since when has the most prestigious newspaper become a hub for fooling around?

What the heck? You want the guy to run ads on the site because you don't like the NYT? Thank god he didn't do that. What was the lifetime value in your eyes? Adding popups and paywalls like many other online games? He made > $1 million dollars.

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Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by omnicognate »

jtr1 wrote: post #154
omnicognate wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a completely client side implementation. You can download it and point any static webserver at it and it works. I.e. making a perfect clone of it is a minute's work and practically free to host. So I don't agree that "couldn't last" is true. I mean zombo.com is still around, with essentially the same ongoing maintenance burden.

The code is trivial to download or even build your own, but the value of playing the same puzzle as everyone else is what’s getting paywalled. For a lot of people, the fun of wordle was solving the same puzzle and comparing notes with friends and strangers.

Agreed, I'm pretty annoyed with nyt for unnecessarily destroying that (and I do think they are in the process of destroying it). I was just pointing out that the idea it would have failed/died if they hadn't bought it is wrong.

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by oweiler »

queuebert wrote: post #132
msoad wrote: post #16

They paid the money to own it. I am not mad about it. You can literally save the HTML and play it if you really care not to see NYT logo. This is a good story for an indie game to be honest

Surely the creator could have made more money by serving ads or something. I doubt the NYT paid them the full lifetime value of the site. And anyway, isn't the NYT supposed to be reporting news or something? Since when has the most prestigious newspaper become a hub for fooling around?

As soon as he'd start serving ads people would leave in droves.

Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT

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Post by approxim8ion »

queuebert wrote: post #132
msoad wrote: post #16

They paid the money to own it. I am not mad about it. You can literally save the HTML and play it if you really care not to see NYT logo. This is a good story for an indie game to be honest

Surely the creator could have made more money by serving ads or something. I doubt the NYT paid them the full lifetime value of the site. And anyway, isn't the NYT supposed to be reporting news or something? Since when has the most prestigious newspaper become a hub for fooling around?

Do you know how much ads pay? It's peanuts. And really, the "full lifetime value" isn't much. These fads die out really quickly.

If anything, this is a win for almost everyone. Dev gets paid handsomely, code still remains available for people who care, and the experience seems mostly unchanged for people who don't.

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