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BizarroLand wrote: post #143
Bancakes wrote: post #140

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If one person pulls a Nazi flag or throws stones at riot cops, he is an agitator and must be outed. Throwing your hands up and leaving will leave you running circles, and is not very mature.

That's a different story, as evidenced by the fact that you told a different story than the one I told. If you're in a group and someone starts throwing stones at a cop, you help the cop get that person (at the very least by getting away from that person so you don't interfere with the cop). If you're in a group and a person joins the group and pulls out a Nazi flag, then you kick that person out of the group unless…

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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by manquer »

refurb wrote: post #148
manquer wrote: post #112

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It was covered in the news well [1] [2] [3] [4]. Even Trudeau mentioned it in his comments. [1] https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-homeless-shelter-staff-hara... [2] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/31/canada-trudeau-deno... [3] https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/police-say-ottawa-tru... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/world/canada/trudeau-truc...

Trudeau also called the protest “anti-trans”. Since this protest is making him look bad, I’d take what he says with a grain of salt.

It is just not him saying this happened, of course he would use it for his political advantage.

I was just trying to show that the homeless shelter claim is beyond just random stranger on the internet ( he argubly is more credible than me however Low that maybe)

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by marak830 »

colpabar wrote: post #110
tonfreed wrote: post #74

Amazing that the 100 IQ elites all think they want a working class uprising, but when it happens they panic and smear them as every -ist and -ism label in the book. It's fine to disagree with the protesters, but at least be honest about what they want. They've been squeezed off online platforms and out of mainstream discourse, and this is what happens when it bubbles over.

What gets me is the way that people will see a picture of a swastika and immediately brand everyone involved as a racist, but then turn around and say that any wrongdoing that happened during a protest for a cause they do agree with was just a couple of bad apples who had nothing to do with the movement. Does that really only happen on one side?

No. If there are Nazis in your group, and you don't kick them out, you're a fucking Nazi.

There is no reason to ever allow Nazis to have any sort of freedom. We literally had a world war about this.

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by BizarroLand »

SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW wrote: post #159
BizarroLand wrote: post #138

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are you going to keep that same energy next time some dude walks in with a nazi flag at every single protest you care about?

Yeah. It's easy to kick Nazi's out of the groups I join, because so far no group I've ever been a part of has been attractive to Nazis. I would wager that's the case for most people.

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

gknoy wrote: post #144
koenigdavidmj wrote: post #108

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So you arrest them all. Now they can’t drive away the trucks in downtown Ottawa. You just exhausted all your leverage with them when you decided to throw the book at them. You call a tow truck driver. They say “I don’t have a class 3 tow truck, there’s no way I can move a semi.” You call a class 3 tow truck driver. They know they’re risking their reputation with the trucking industry, so they refuse. If they’re the t…

At some point in that line of events, where do the bulldozers come out? Is the government obligated to preserve the condition of vehicles that are effectively a roadblock? (It probably is, but at the same time .... how far are you going to get in suing the government for siezing/dismantling/bulldozing your vehicle?)

If there are five trucks there, most of this is moot. If there are a couple thousand, this gets interesting.

- How many bulldozers do you have nearby?

- How many bulldozers do you have nearby that are on the government's side here?

- Where's your nearest hole or parking lot big enough to put a couple thousand trucks in, indefinitely?

- Who's going to pay for that? Your truckers are in jail, so you threaten to...jail them if they don't pay?

It's Canada, not Xinjiang. The worst they can do is jail you in a cushy prison for longer, with people who already counted the cost.

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Post by BizarroLand »

mrhands556 wrote: post #149
BizarroLand wrote: post #138

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There was a video of them kicking out some dude with a confederate flag. I’ve only seen the Nazi flag in a couple pictures and seemed like it was never in the middle of the rally. Source: https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confro... If you’re trying to discredit a group of people it’s pretty low hanging fruit to send people in with a Nazi flag for great photo ops to show the masses.

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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by [deleted] »

BizarroLand wrote: post #164
SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW wrote: post #159

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are you going to keep that same energy next time some dude walks in with a nazi flag at every single protest you care about?

Yeah. It's easy to kick Nazi's out of the groups I join, because so far no group I've ever been a part of has been attractive to Nazis. I would wager that's the case for most people.

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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by BizarroLand »

SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW wrote: post #160
BizarroLand wrote: post #129

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If the group you're in pulls out Nazi flags and you don't leave the group, then you're endorsing Nazism the same as if your group starts to break into a house and you don't leave the group then you're an accessory to breaking into a house. It's very basic stuff here.

who said they were in the group? if you keep seeing nazis everywhere than maybe you're the one with the problem?

If I see Nazi flags and Swastikas being waved proudly, and I say, "Man, I can't believe there are Nazis over there, I thought we first world countries absolutely hated Nazis!", why would that be a me problem?
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