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Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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hilbert42 wrote: post #157
tnbp wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IUPAC has nothing to do with it--aspartame is a trivial name. It's no mess, either--chemists know that 1M sulfuric acid does not contain any H2SO4, even though H2SO4 is sulfuric acid. The skeletal and ball-and-stick structures differ precisely because they weren't created from the same source--the author of the ball-and-stick structure cites a crystallography paper as their source, and solid crystals consist of zwitt…

That type of problem is found throughout chemistry but usually an accepted nomenclature applies (when it doesn't is when we get into troubles). So why did Wiki make the change when I pointed the matter out if it is incorrect? I'd now suggest you get it corrected. Edit: also tell Wiki that it shouldn't post inconsistent information as it only confuses (similarly ChemSpider). Edit 2: 'aspartame is a trivial name'. Very…

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Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by hankchinaski »

slightly unrelated, but i read mixed opinions on the safety of aspartame. Is there anyone knowledgeable in the field who has research proving one way or the other? I rarely consume sodas, I just don't know whether it's safer to consume artificially sweetened ones or standard ones. The literature on the topic seems conflicting and incomplete

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by iamricks »

hankchinaski wrote: post #162

slightly unrelated, but i read mixed opinions on the safety of aspartame. Is there anyone knowledgeable in the field who has research proving one way or the other? I rarely consume sodas, I just don't know whether it's safer to consume artificially sweetened ones or standard ones. The literature on the topic seems conflicting and incomplete

It is propaganda, read through this wiki[1] and see how far people have gone to create propaganda against it. It's one of the most researched ingredients by the FDA.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by wink »

anfilt wrote: post #132
dagw wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know lots of people claim that Coke Zero tastes "basically" the same as normal Coke, but to me it was literally the most disgusting soda I have ever tastes. Far worse than even Coke light for some reason.

Yea, I am in the same boat I find diet sodas taste disgusting.

If it only was this easy!

For me it's an on-/off relationship over the years.

I usually am fine with the Diet Coke at McDonald's in Germany (it's cold), but not a fan of the stuff I buy in plastic bottles. I do like Diet Pepsi but not Max (I find it tastes very artificial). Coke Zero is so-so.

And the weirdest thing is that we have Fanta Tangerine, which they switched from sugar to only-as-diet a while ago and now I can't drink it because it tastes so horrible.

TLDR: Either my sense of taste is just broken or they're actually switching the recipes every few years. Or it is actually this phenomenon here.

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by iamricks »

schipplock wrote: post #136
Pooge wrote: post #127

Sorry if this is slightly off-topic, but whenever I drink Coca-Cola Zero, I get a bit dizzy. It doesn't happen with other soda like Pepsi Zero. I've read somewhere that aspartame is much stronger than sugar. For the life of me, I can't find any references I stumbled upon when I searched about it, but has any of you had the same symptoms?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_drink#Amount_of_artificia... Pepsi Max contains more of Aspartame compared to Coke Zero. Stop drinking this garbage :). Drink water and tea.

There is nothing wrong with Aspartame, and no amount of diet soda will even come close to dangerous levels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by iamricks »

anfilt wrote: post #129

I can't stand diet soda's they always taste off. I a lot these artificial sweeteners gross/disgusting.

You might be used to really sugary drinks, i was an obese child and once my nutritionist took away regular coke and juices from me i couldn't drink a sugary drink without feeling disgusted at how sweet it was and artificial sweeteners tasted a lot better.

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by iamricks »

johnyzee wrote: post #90
ddtaylor wrote: post #21

Is the "jury still out" on Aspertame causing health problems like cancer?

There have been a number of studies linking artificial sweeteners to changes in gut biome (which can be a lot more serious than it sounds). Here is one recent example: https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/artificial-sweeteners-can-... Intuitively, it would make sense that the introduction of such an artificial and alien chemical into the diet would have some kind of negative effect, for whatever that's worth. I say that…

I don't understand why people are scared of "Alien Chemicals" in food but will take plenty of OTC medication. If we didn't trust anything made in labs people would still be dying at 30 years old.

Also, artificial sweeteners help people who have obesity problems, being obese will reduce your life expectancy by up to 15 years, drinking diet soda hasn't killed anyone.

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by iamricks »

blurker wrote: post #26
Gigachad wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Aspartame is one of the most studied and tested substances on the planet and they still haven't linked a single problem to it. At least not one that doesn't relate to sweeteners in general. Nothing else has gone under so much scrutiny (Maybe MSG). Seems like a too good to be true situation where people can't accept its actually this good.

Can you provide a source or explain how you came to the conclusion that it is one of the most studied substances on the planet? Personally I'm not worried about aspartame. I consume it in small amounts and am not overly concerned, but this statement goes beyond the facts I'm aware of. Update: I found a source, the FDA says that: https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/additional... I had heard that about. M…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by tnbp »

hilbert42 wrote: post #157
tnbp wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IUPAC has nothing to do with it--aspartame is a trivial name. It's no mess, either--chemists know that 1M sulfuric acid does not contain any H2SO4, even though H2SO4 is sulfuric acid. The skeletal and ball-and-stick structures differ precisely because they weren't created from the same source--the author of the ball-and-stick structure cites a crystallography paper as their source, and solid crystals consist of zwitt…

That type of problem is found throughout chemistry but usually an accepted nomenclature applies (when it doesn't is when we get into troubles). So why did Wiki make the change when I pointed the matter out if it is incorrect? I'd now suggest you get it corrected. Edit: also tell Wiki that it shouldn't post inconsistent information as it only confuses (similarly ChemSpider). Edit 2: 'aspartame is a trivial name'. Very…

  >That type of problem is found throughout chemistry but usually an accepted nomenclature applies (when it doesn't is when we get into troubles).
It is not. Nobody who is into chemistry is confused by it, and those who are usually learn something new when they first stumble upon it.

  >So why did Wiki make the change when I pointed the matter out if it is incorrect?
Possibly because most Wikipedians aren't chemists and assume good faith.

  >I'd now suggest you get it corrected.
That level of entitlement...

  >Very true, but aspartame is not known to the world by its IUPAC name
Please think about this statement. Thoroughly.

Re: Why does my diet soda taste off? Aspartame hydrolysis

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Post by Pooge »

iamricks wrote: post #165
schipplock wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_drink#Amount_of_artificia... Pepsi Max contains more of Aspartame compared to Coke Zero. Stop drinking this garbage :). Drink water and tea.

There is nothing wrong with Aspartame, and no amount of diet soda will even come close to dangerous levels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

Probably, but I'd rather drink only water and tea. Considering how bad I feel after just a bottle of Coca-Cola Zero, I'd rather not try it again and stick with natural drinks.

I think we've allowed our society to become addict to sugar, and I don't think Aspartame is our savior.

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