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BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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I would say most UK people consider the BBC to be impartial and neutral, except perhaps for people with more extreme political opinions.

> except perhaps for people with more extreme political opinions. Like the people who supported Corbyn, or Scottish independence? You're characterizing people who were a few points from winning as extremists.

Don't fall for the mistake that everyone voting for X is as polarised or 'extreme' as the activists campaigning for X.

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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I like much of what the BBC do and produce, especially BBC news, but the licence fee has always felt like a relic from the past with a bad strategy of enforcement (With their threatening letters and misguiding terminology as to when a license is required). Their actual broadcast service is lacking in some areas too. On BBC One HD I still get a blank place-holder screen for local news, advising to switch to the non-HD…

I feel the complete opposite way about BBC news. BBC shows, documentaries and radio programmes are some of the best worldwide. But BBC news is often either notoriously pro-government (especially since 2016, when Cameron dictated that government appoints the BBC board) or with a ridiculous view on impartiality for anything else (the infamous "if we discuss earth's curvature we have to invite a flat earther for balance" approach).

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Only to answer your question about the party scandals - it totally made its way across the Atlantic. The severity of the scandal has been stated but is not obvious (Boris May lose his prime ministership over this ?) However, it was drowned out by the ouster of Phillip.

What I don't get is why the conservatives were so draconian over covid. Your partner is dying, you can't see them. Folks couldn't walk around outside. Some guy driving to walk around outside was like national news. I mean, if you go to this extreme, and then are throwing parties. (Rules for thee, not for me) it would make me furious as well. Let me go sit on the beach with sunshine and fresh air instead of having to…

They went draconian because the media pushed for it and the public seemed to support it.

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> the Government does not get to control the national TV like it does when the one who pays is it directly. You may want to double check who's in charge of the BBC. The Director-General Tim Davie is a former deputy chairman of a local Conservative party and Conservative councillor candidate. Not that bad, perhaps. But the Chairman of the BBC, Richard Sharp, was a banker at JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, advisor to Bori…

If this is the case, why did the BBC vote 5 to 1 in favour of Remain[1], despite the Conservative party being down the middle on Brexit. 75% of comedians are explicitly left wing [2] Anecdotally, the sidebar of BBC News UK edition is littered with articles attempting to argue that any inequality between sex or race of people in a unvaried analysis is indicative of system X-ism. Very rarely do people leave the BBC and…

Why? Because they have not had enough time to try to change it yet. But it is happening: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/the-mash-report-axed-bbc-...

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BBC Tech salaries are awful, even by UK standards. Good luck for getting more efficient when you're not paying anyone to disrupt workflows.

This is in a large part because of the fact that salaries are paid with "license payers' money" and the scrutiny that comes with this.

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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What I don't get is why the conservatives were so draconian over covid. Your partner is dying, you can't see them. Folks couldn't walk around outside. Some guy driving to walk around outside was like national news. I mean, if you go to this extreme, and then are throwing parties. (Rules for thee, not for me) it would make me furious as well. Let me go sit on the beach with sunshine and fresh air instead of having to…

They went draconian because the media pushed for it and the public seemed to support it.

Righto, it was "the medias" fault, not the government running the country for 10+ years.

It is in Tory DNA to be authoritarian, the pandemic was simply an opportunity to act on those impulses. While laughing about it from No. 10 (see Cummings, the parties, et al).

The UK is barely-democratic. All key decisions are controlled by Westminster and number 10. The rights under devolution for Scotland and Wales (such as they are) are "lent" and can be taken back.

Real democracies have regional federated governments with real powers to set taxes etc. The UK is a bureaucratic monolith with almost 70 million people controlled by one office in Westminster.

I think only France has a similar centralization of power.

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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They went draconian because the media pushed for it and the public seemed to support it.

Righto, it was "the medias" fault, not the government running the country for 10+ years. It is in Tory DNA to be authoritarian, the pandemic was simply an opportunity to act on those impulses. While laughing about it from No. 10 (see Cummings, the parties, et al). The UK is barely-democratic. All key decisions are controlled by Westminster and number 10. The rights under devolution for Scotland and Wales (such as the…

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Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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The BBC's version of the article at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60014514 . > The BBC has declined to comment. Nothing more BBC than the BBC writing an article about the BBC saying that the BBC haven't commented.

This is great journalistic integrity. I applaud them for that.

As long as it meets the BBCs "strict impartiality rules". Remember if facts annoy a certain group that supports the governments agenda the truth must be watered down to keep them happy.

Can't have Nadine Dorris* being offended can we?

*The closest thing the UK has to Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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You don't pay because you watch it. You pay so other people have some access to actual information so that we can have a functioning democracy and society. If you don't want those things, move to a failed state somewhere. If you do, pay up and get over yourself.

If the BBC is the only thing stopping the UK from becoming a failed state then God help us. Or, we could simply carry on without it and not really notice. I'm going with the latter.

We've already had Brexit and Prime Minister Boris. How much more failed would you like the UK to become? We don't have the weather for literally being mad max...
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