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Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by denton-scratch »

zuminator wrote: post #3

0) This surprisingly has nothing to do with chess engines or the US Democratic Party. 1) Documentary programs are almost always faked, in the sense that they present false continuity and false spontaneity. People often don't notice the manufactured aspect unless a subject they're intimately involved with is featured, and then it's immediately apparent.

I had some training on video news production, from a guy that does editing for major channels. You simply can't make engaging video without lots of cutting and splicing. You have to re-order segments to make a coherent storyline. All "live" video news is processed this way, otherwise nobody would watch it.

The scales fell from my eyes; that was the beginning of my awakening to the true nature of video news.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by medstrom »

dagw wrote: post #143
medstrom wrote: post #114

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Don't even have to do that, literally everyone passing them by could have been instructed on what to say, out-of-view. If there's a solution it's probably something akin to research preregistration.

If there's a solution Isn't what you're asking for just polling?

Aren't we trying to solve the trustworthiness of street interviews?

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by beaconstudios »

denton-scratch wrote: post #156
beaconstudios wrote: post #94

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yeah me too - from your link: > often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition the first part of that is the defining part of fascism - the state id…

That definition is deficient. Fascism also includes state involvement in private industry. I dislike the usage of "fascism" to mean "authoritarianism I disapprove of" (I used to use the word that way). It's an unhelpful word, because people use it in so many ways. Now, I only use it to refer to the Italian state under Mussolini. For other uses, I try to say what I mean.

Pinochet was a free market fascist, so state intervention is not really inherent to fascism, and of course all states intervene in the economy in various ways. If there's an essence of fascism that makes it unique, it's the narrative element. "we" are under threat, we need a national rebirth to purify our culture, that sort of thing.

This is the definition I'm drawing from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalis...

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by yorwba »

schappim wrote: post #39
spoonjim wrote: post #25

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What are the elements of "Chinese culture" that persist in Taiwan and were eliminated in Mainland China?

Some elements that come to mind: - Traditional Chinese characters used more often in Taiwan than Mainland China. - Yayue (3,000 years old Chinese court music). - Taiwanese recreation of Tang Dynasty dances. - In Taiwan poems are composed/written/recited in Hokkien, on the mainland it is done in Mandarin. - The preservation of uninterrupted institutional religion (eg Daoist priests) that was largely shutdown in China.…

Traditional Chinese characters are still used on the Mainland for stylistic reasons, e.g. 為人民服務 "serve the people" in Mao Zedong's handwriting is popular as decoration: http://image.hnol.net/c/2014-02/28/16/201402281653233461-227... (And Simplified Characters get used in Taiwan for convenience, compare 台湾 vs. 台灣 vs. 臺灣 "Taiwan")

Yayue performed at the closing ceremony of the World Military Games in Wuhan: https://bilibili.com/video/BV19E41187ga

Recreation of Tang dynasty dances: https://bilibili.com/video/BV1Lv411Y75s

Poem recited in Hokkien: https://bilibili.com/video/BV1re411s7Tm

Recital of Daoist classics (warning: loud!) Subtitles are in the bullet comments: https://bilibili.com/video/BV1N7411t7fJ

Okay, I couldn't find anything about Xi Jinping visiting Confucian temples, so have some Buddhist monks instead: https://file.dahe.cn/image/jpeg/20210723/1627048785988322.jp...

And the PRC certainly doesn't have a dedicated Ceremonial Official to Confucius.

Re: Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

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Post by denton-scratch »

vlkr wrote: post #35

I wonder how many accounts the chinese state maintains on hackernews to upvote/downvote post and comments. It's an easy way to influence the public opinion and hard to expose.

I don't think HN influences "public opinion".

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Post by dmix »

jabbany wrote: post #107
kinghtown wrote: post #17

I live in Taiwan. Very, very few people here are pro-PRC. Tons of Taiwanese people love China and culturally consider themselves Chinese (to be clear, not Chinese citizens.) The vast majority of people disagree on if they should either give up and surrender to the PRC because they may launch missiles or invade once they have a non-laughing stock navy, avoid a bloody war, or if China wouldn’t dare to do that because i…

Besides some outlier ultra nationalists, most regular citizens of the mainland are also not huge fans of the CCP either and would happily get along with Taiwanese. And I have met some Taiwanese who even ironically have an overly romanticized view of the mainland --- seeing it as having made huge strides economically compared to the somewhat stagnant local economy. At the end of the day, Taiwan culturally has more in…

I always found it (vaguely) interesting that people from both Taiwan and Hong Kong refer to PRC China as ‘mainlander’. But I see how it makes sense.

> At the end of the day, Taiwan culturally has more in common with the mainland than, say, Hong Kong does

As a western for some reason I thought this would be the opposite.

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Post by dumb1224 »

kinghtown wrote: post #17

I live in Taiwan. Very, very few people here are pro-PRC. Tons of Taiwanese people love China and culturally consider themselves Chinese (to be clear, not Chinese citizens.) The vast majority of people disagree on if they should either give up and surrender to the PRC because they may launch missiles or invade once they have a non-laughing stock navy, avoid a bloody war, or if China wouldn’t dare to do that because i…

We do get alone quite well at least in my circle. In my opinion people from Taiwan are actually more tolerate and warm than us. But increasingly young people from mainland are catching up and becoming more international.

I can't imagine how anyone from taiwan could naturally be 'Pro' chinese gov (given the media portrait and long history of rivalry), they would more likely support either 'green' or 'blue' camp, who will act on behave of people to interface with mainland policies.

The difference is some of my close Taiwanese friends are very weary of the political shows as they believe it is highly industrialised consumable entertainment while in the mainland people are quite innocent and audience are not mature enough and easily stirred up emotionally.

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Post by twic »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #103
matsemann wrote: post #99

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Reminds me of a movie I saw as a kid. Can't remember the exact situation. But some celebrity, super-hero or whatever got asked by a journalist something ala "why did you say you hate this city?" and they answered "I have never said 'I hate this city'". Then what was aired was the last of that sentence, only the 'I hate this city' part.

I think that's the Scooby Doo live action sequel.

"I think Coolsville sucks!": https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-think-coolsville-sucks

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Post by philliphaydon »

starfallg wrote: post #112
wonnage wrote: post #38

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I'll take the bait: - Standard of living has increased incomprehensibly over the last 40 years. - Huge cities with incredible culture and history. - Safe to walk around at night. Imagine walking around downtown NYC or LA at 3am without feeling like you're gonna get mugged. - Despite all the saber rattling with neighbors Taiwan, Japan, and India, and quarterly tank parades, not involved in hot wars since a misguided i…

I'll take the bait-bait - >- Standard of living has increased incomprehensibly over the last 40 years. So did in Taiwan, SK, Japan, Hong Kong, Sinagpore, etc. in the 50s-90s. China is actually behind, and was slow to develop because of the mess that the revolution caused. >- Safe to walk around at night. Imagine walking around downtown NYC or LA at 3am without feeling like you're gonna get mugged. As above, the autho…

> What is even your point here? Are you trying to say that it's actually Taiwan provoking China?

You could have mentioned the CCP attacking and attempted invasion of Taiwan in 1954 and 1958.

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Post by [deleted] »

ryan_j_naughton wrote: post #106
rackjack wrote: post #54

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Very true. North and South have different food cultures, and dialects between different regions can be borderline incomprehensible to each other, just off the top of my head.

> dialects between different regions can be borderline incomprehensible to each other That's because they aren't dialects. They are different languages. The CCP has pushed this lie that all Chinese languages are "dialects" instead of separate languages because it aligns with their narrative of a single Chinese people. You can be a single ethnicity and still have differences and different languages, but to the mainlan…

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