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54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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And they vote. Go figure. Maybe schools should teach literacy skills and other useful subjects. Just a thought.

Please don't post unsubstantive flamebait to Hacker News. It leads to dumbed-down, boring, inflammatory subthreads and we're trying for something different here.

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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I couldn't write a coherent sentence until I was 24 years old. A couple years after high school I discovered reading starting with "Cannery Row" however it still took significant effort to learn to write despite thousands of hours of reading. Once I understood the basic mechanics of grammar, fitting words into meaningful structures became second nature. I still can't spell the word coherent without assistance from a…

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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Based on the level of reading and writing comprehension in the average HN thread, I would say we should practice more humility than I'm seeing in this thread so far.

It's a terrible thread, largely because of the editorialized title (which I'm not even going to bother to revert), but please don't post unsubstantive flamebait in your own right. This is in the site guidelines for good reason:

"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community."

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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This submission has an egregiously editorialized title, which is against the site guidelines for good reason:

"Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize."

As a result, we got a tedious, dumbed-down, inflammatory and supercilious discussion. Just what we don't want here.

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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I couldn't write a coherent sentence until I was 24 years old. A couple years after high school I discovered reading starting with "Cannery Row" however it still took significant effort to learn to write despite thousands of hours of reading. Once I understood the basic mechanics of grammar, fitting words into meaningful structures became second nature. I still can't spell the word coherent without assistance from a…

> People are hostile when I say there isn't such a thing as a learning disability but rather only teaching disabilities There is such a thing as dyslexia, and that cannot be fixed by teaching better. You can still form sentences, apply grammar and tell stories without writing, but the reading+writing part is a major problem for some people. Your story of beating the challenges of your bad early education can't and wo…

> There is such a thing as dyslexia, and that cannot be fixed by teaching better.

Can you support this assertion? My understanding of the topic, having a person close to me with a dyslexia dx, is that the appropriate educational intervention is training the brain to use alternate pathways for different parts of the reading process. This isn’t “teaching better” but is “teaching.”

http://www.dyslexia.yale.edu/

http://dyslexia.yale.edu/research-science/ycdc-research/payi...

Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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Based on the level of reading and writing comprehension in the average HN thread, I would say we should practice more humility than I'm seeing in this thread so far.

Agreed. The Reddit discussion on this is full of anecdotes, questions, first had experiences with the school system and how this happens, etc. HN? Attack the article. And that’s the nicest comments, the ones that don’t attack the people with reading issues.

Where is the reddit thread?

Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The Reddit discussion on this is full of anecdotes, questions, first had experiences with the school system and how this happens, etc. HN? Attack the article. And that’s the nicest comments, the ones that don’t attack the people with reading issues.

HN is not the smartest place on the internet. It just has a high concentration of engineers and tech money men overwhelmingly skewed to a very narrow demographic (white men 35-45, high earners, mostly in the bay area). There’s nothing wrong with being a high income white man 35-45 living in the bay, but there’s nothing particularly insightful either about discussions between them — especially when it comes to situati…

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Re: 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level

#170

It's interesting that one of the richest countries on earth has such low education standards

This is a common phenomenon in countries that have already peaked. There is a time of education/learning, which leads to prosperity, which leads to over confidence, which leads to complacency, and eventually a downfall. Repeat.
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