Very cool. If this were out a year ago, I may have gone for it instead of my Moonlander. The curved keywells is big differentiator. It would have been hard to have committed to a switch style, though. It took me some trial and error to settle on my Zilents.
Kinesis Advantage 360
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#162No function keys is a huge deal breaker for me, I don't have any problem sticking to my advantage2.
looks like there is a function layer. Layers are nice because they make it so you don't have to move your hands far from home row.
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#163I recently replaced the controller on my advantage2 to support qmk[0]. Using multiple layers lets me avoid the tiny rubber f-keys and move the arrow keys to hjkl along with a few other tweaks. I wish kinsis would make qmk support a default option. Custom layouts and layers are just too useful for me to give up. [0] https://github.com/kinx-project/kint
Yea, I have an advantage pro but it's been collecting dust since I got a qmk keyboard. I'm not paying for proprietary firmware anymore, and since Kinesis' poor handling of their sticky modifier key bug (that existed and was well known for what, a decade or two?) I'm not keen on paying them anything at all anyway.
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#164Trying to justify the price as I’m very keen to try the contoured keys. What’s the difference between the two models?
you could also build your own at much lower cost but much higher labor: https://github.com/abstracthat/dactyl-manuform
https://www.etsy.com/market/dactyl_manuform
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#165I picked up a Kinesis a few month ago and it's been a life changer. I've struggled with shoulder pain since as far back as I can remember. I'd done PT, dry needling, massage, etc etc. I'd even sprung for a personal ergonomic assessment. I'm a cyclist and and keyboard jockey, so most of my waking life is spent in positions that seemed to make it worse. At times it prevented me from sleeping, doing things I enjoyed, et…
Out of curiosity: where/what type of shoulder pain did you have, and what movements triggered it?
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#166Has anyone seen a printable mockup for this keyboard layout yet? I've found (1) invaluable for ruling out which layouts are too large for my hands e.g. the Moonlander. This keyboard looks excellent - but I want to make sure I won't be overstretching if I get it.
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#167I cannot fathom why the Kinesis keyboards don't have thumb shift by default. At least it's customizable.
I think they want to keep it somewhat approachable..
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#168FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander
Did the Moonlander take some getting used to with the non-staggered key layout?
I have the Ergodox EZ, so similar to the Moonlander. It took me about a full workweek to use it without looking at the keyboard, and another week to type at a competent speed. That said, after three years of ownership, I still can't type as fast as I can on my MacBook's keyboard (last I checked: 65wpm with the Ergodox, 109wpm with the MacBook).
Still totally worth it.
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#169I've been using a kenesis advantage for the last several years, and absolutely love it. And I'm incredibly excited about this, mostly Hits: - Split design - multiple bluetooth pairings/wireless connection Misses: - No function keys?
There's a function layer. So you can still hit the function keys, just have to hit another button first.
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#170I don't mind the lack of function keys, I have a lot of 40-60% keyboards that lack function keys - but from the pictures, FN+6 is F7… Yikes. Off by one.
Why. Every layered keyboard is FN+1-9 = F1-9
I'm sure you can reprogram it to correct this, but this is just silly.