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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by tentacleuno »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #127
scruple wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully we have options. I'm planning on moving my main desktop to Arch over my Christmas break from work. It's been a while since I ran Linux as my main desktop, my only complaints have been around gaming performance. I have a friend who plays the same games as I do and he's got everything working on his Arch install. That's really the only thing that holds me on Windows and if it's as smooth of a transition as I…

I try to move to Linux desktop one or twice a year for the last, what, 20 years. I have Linux on all my servers, was an early (very minor) dev on pre-1 kernel and generally love it. The desktop is a walking nightmare. Something continuously does not work: multiple screens, waking up from sleep etc. I really would like to move (we use Outlook but I am even ready to go for OWA) but Windows is considerably better on lap…

> but Windows is considerably better on laptops.

I'll concede that if you're talking about the trackpad, Linux is disappointingly bad compared to Windows. It's really really shaky, scrolls up and down with a shockingly massive jitter. You start to wonder if the trackpad itself is malfunctioning. Sadly, the same trackpad works so much better on Windows.

This is mainly about the pointer / trackpad drivers to be fair, but it's still a freestanding issue that has the potential to really bug someone using Linux on a laptop. It gets so bad I have to carry around a mouse.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by tentacleuno »

tombert wrote: post #160
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I try to move to Linux desktop one or twice a year for the last, what, 20 years. I have Linux on all my servers, was an early (very minor) dev on pre-1 kernel and generally love it. The desktop is a walking nightmare. Something continuously does not work: multiple screens, waking up from sleep etc. I really would like to move (we use Outlook but I am even ready to go for OWA) but Windows is considerably better on lap…

Haven't you heard? It's the year of the Linux desktop :) In all seriousness, until about a year ago when I got a discount on a Macbook and changed to that, I had been running Linux for about a decade across different laptops, and feel that since ~2017 the desktop experience has improved substantially . I bought a new laptop in 2017, installed Ubuntu on it...and that was it. I spent exactly zero minutes installing dri…

> and "going to sleep upon the lid closing" just worked.

And "not going to sleep upon the lid closing" just works, too! I tried this when I hooked my laptop up to the TV. Closing the lid did nothing. It only went to sleep when you closed it and unplugged the HDMI. I really really liked that, despite it being a tiny detail.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by grishka »

dragontamer wrote: post #25
cronix wrote: post #22

So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

Alder Lake needed a new scheduler. So any 12th generation Intel build will greatly benefit from Win11 scheduler over Win10.

Can you use the kernel from win11 with win10 (or even 7) userspace, or are NT kernels not interchangeable like this?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by jptech »

Liquid_Fire wrote: post #3
anshumankmr wrote: post #2

As someone who used Firefox and has Windows 11, how is it going to affect me? My links open in Firefox only (and the only time I open links is either from WhatsApp or occasionally some link in a doc file or PDF I am reading). It works fine for me so far.

I think it's only for 'microsoft-edge:' URLs, used by certain Windows features (e.g. Bing search from the start menu, or opening the online help via a link in the Settings). Most other links will just be normal http:/https: links and will use your actual default browser.

Can you block Edge's internet access? Then if the said URL was something you needed, copy-paste to your default browser.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by tentacleuno »

smoldesu wrote: post #108
willis936 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

Then why wait? Programs like Photoshop and Ableton Live work just fine through WINE. I have a hard time imagining what kind of software you can't replace on modern Linux...

> Programs like Photoshop and Ableton Live work just fine through WINE.

Could you expand on this, please? What was your experience working with Photoshop in WINE? What version / CC of Photoshop did you use? Did you use PlayOnLinux, which supports this IIRC?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by kaba0 »

pjfin123 wrote: post #33

Linux Desktop feeling extra good today, my sound often doesn't work but I don't have to deal with Microsoft nonsense.

Frankly, sound has not been a problem for a long time now I think. Hell, the number of time windows killed the sound driver under usage for whatever reason it deemed useful, I actually would say nowadays Windows has the worst audio stack out of the 3 main OSs.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by smoldesu »

DashAnimal wrote: post #150
smoldesu wrote: post #108

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Then why wait? Programs like Photoshop and Ableton Live work just fine through WINE. I have a hard time imagining what kind of software you can't replace on modern Linux...

What about VSTs using iLok? Ive only shallowly looked at it in the past but haven't heard good things

VSTs using iLok barely work on Windows/MacOS, I'd imagine their chances of working on Linux to be fairly slim, courtesy of the fact that the DRM is often larger than the plugin itself. Some manufacturers like U-HE have taken it upon themselves to start releasing Linux builds of their VSTs (albeit without support) and they seem to work really well from what I've tried.

So yeah, DRM is still an issue but the tides may be turning, especially now that the audio subsystem on Linux just got a massive rework.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by crvdgc »

seqizz wrote: post #136

What the hell is a "microsoft-edge:// link"? Pardon my ignorance since I didn't use Windows for years, but who even link something like that?

On Windows, apps can register URIs for them to handle. For example, steam uses steam://. The actual behavior is determined by the app.

According to Microsoft's documentation[0], the microsoft-edge:// scheme opens the edge browser and navigates to the specified URL.

If what is claimed in the article is implemented, it will provide a way to bypass the default browser setting. The system will launch edge even if you set another browser as your default web browser, bringing the problem of leaking MS account information that comes with the edge.

[0]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/launch-resume/l...

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by hn_version_0023 »

lowbloodsugar wrote: post #116
hn_version_0023 wrote: post #93

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You've missed the 2nd definition of shill: shill verb: 2 : to act as a spokesperson or promoter "the eminent Shakespearean producer … is now shilling for a brokerage house" — Andy Rooney shill noun: 1b : one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shill If you're going to choose to be pedantic, it helps to read the entire definition, and not just paste in the top res…

Pretty sure that to be a shill, your relationship to the thing being promoted has to be hidden. We don't refer to marketing folks as shills. Parasites maybe, badum-ching.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shill#note-1

"Someone who shills today may very well be employed to simply extol the wonders of legitimate products."

Of course it does go on to say that originally its use was in service of a con, so secrecy is most definitely implied. Good stuff... I love little pedantic asides!

And... parasites, most definitely.

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