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Post by ryandrake »

dang wrote: post #149
ryandrake wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have found when your account goes into this "you're posting too fast" purgatory, you can't post more than (I think) five times in some time period (12 hours?? not sure). My account somehow always ends up in this purgatory. It seems like something automatic triggers it and then you have to always E-mail them to get out of it, so I don't even bother anymore.

It's not automatic, it's manual. We rate limit accounts when they post too many low-quality comments too quickly and/or get involved in flamewars. If you keep experiencing this after you emailed us to remove the limit, it must mean that you reverted to posting low-quality comments or (more likely) getting involved in flamewars. Or at least a mod saw it that way.

Interesting, thanks for the explanation. I'd argue that since there is no notice and no feedback as to which particular comment(s) triggered the action, then it may as well be automatic. I've kind of just learned to live with the limit, as I find it a little distasteful to have to keep E-mailing to justify myself, when I don't know what, in particular, got me into the state I need to justify myself out of.

Perhaps the purgatory state could expire after some fixed (weeks, months) cool-down period, I don't know. Just a suggestion.

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

dougmwne wrote: post #91

> he is the best moderator in the world Yes he is. Dang, you are amazing. Thank you for tending this beautiful garden in the middle of a sad and boggy Internet.

> he is the best moderator in [the](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25051566) world.

Oh, hey. This is my moment of glory, I guess!

The number of people I moderate has only increased since then. I still stand by those words.

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Post by legrande »

> Hacker News has software to detect vote manipulation (ie. asking friends to upvote)

Putting on my conspiracy robe, I imagine it's not just about 'friends upvoting friends', but the relative ease at which new accounts are created (No SMS one-time-tokens, not even email required to register etc); and then using those accounts to artificially inflate certain stories.

If there are accounts being created for the purposes of artificially inflating stories, and their 'score value' then I would hope it's about interesting content, and not some politically tainted fluff piece used to persuade and misinform/dis-inform.

Largely HN seems to work in favor of interesting content, and I agree with this article when it says: "If you get past the voting ring detector, you won’t get past the readers."

I mean, if you somehow developed a voting ring, you would have to jump even more hoops to get that article/link the respect it deserves. And the HN audience are very articulate in pointing out flaws in services/articles/sites in general.

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Post by blamazon »

dougmwne wrote: post #91

> he is the best moderator in the world Yes he is. Dang, you are amazing. Thank you for tending this beautiful garden in the middle of a sad and boggy Internet.

One thing I really appreciate about dang is how he links to previous related discussions on similar articles. This has helped me to find many interesting discussions!

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Post by simion314 »

geoduck14 wrote: post #109
simion314 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent is trying to tell that off-topic is not welcomed by some users. I am the same opinion, I don't want to see on HN news about some non-technical political thing in LA or India , or see 3 days in a row someone toy Rust project. You can try to change my mind that I should never use GOTO, some fanatic submitted such articles and comments using the "NEVER" and I will be happy to reply because is still on topic.…

>God says vaccine is bad but hearth pills are good Anyone else wondering what a "hearth pill" is?

>Anyone else wondering what a "hearth pill" is?

typo/bad spell, I meant heart

I am not attacking Trump or americans here, is a story from my country where in a very religious family the daughter failed to convince her mother to get the vaccine, the reason was soem Jesus /God does not allow it but for some reason God allows the mother to take pills/medicine for her heart ... makes no sense , if God gifted you a bad heart then WTF do you take unnatural pills, why did you vaccinated your children but for COVID you somehow found in the Bible that this vaccine is too much.

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Post by LewisVerstappen »

mkl wrote: post #12
capableweb wrote: post #6

A collaborative resource with more information about undocumented/norms on HN: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented > Personally, I’d stay at 3. I’d also wait at least a day between re-posts (and try re-posting at different time slots). Wow, that's not how I parsed the very same reposting rules. If I'm about to submit something and I found an older submission with the same URL, my personal rule is th…

> > Hacker News is moderated mainly by dang aka Dan Gackle (pronounced ‘Gackley’). He’s not of asian descent > ??? Is it common that people think he is Asian for some reason? What a strange paragraph to include... "Dang" is a surname in Vietnam, China, and elsewhere [1], which has led to subthreads like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20643150 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25053380 in which, yes, peop…

Cue the “You’re not Chinese?!?” joke from Seinfeld…

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Post by jfernandez »

Without getting to robotic: given how I also think dang is awesome, has anyone ever tried to compile of list of tactics dang employs to receive such high praise by almost everyone on the site? Meaning, like some sort of case studies that map back to higher order principles/values he's acting on.

Re: Open secrets about Hacker News

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Post by rolph »

xwdv wrote: post #84

One of the things about Hackernews karma system is that a lot of downvotes get filtered out as fraudulent. However, once you are “targeted” that filter is removed and downvotes against you become more powerful. I used to have a very high karma nearing 1000, and then one day it’s like a switch got flipped and my karma began a decline that never stopped, a year later I’ve been completely drained of karma. I might never…

if i may, some constructive feedback...

try to make something like this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=xwdv

more like this:

[edit deln.] How can you want to be part of something when you don’t even know what it’s like on the inside?

What happens when you are given a task you do NOT want to be part of? What happens when a task has moral gray area? What happens if you suddenly decide you really want to be part of something else?

[edit deln] if you’re hiring someone you want someone with valuable skills who is ready to be of service, ready to do whatever you ask, and will remain loyal so long as they are paid. You don’t want people to be nice, you want them to be predictable. That’s true value.

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