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Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by BiteCode_dev » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 7:59 PM UTC

idle_zealot wrote: post #150

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #84

It's not only an awesome technical achievement, but it has also so much potential to be useful. And yet, something at the back on my head is screaming: WARNING! I have the intuition that, on the long run, using more and more tools that are not on your own machine will create a dependency on systems big companies control. And something tells me we are going to pay for it in the end. So I'll stay away. Maybe I'm gettin…

This is running on your machine though. The browser downloads vscode as a SPA-style thing, and runs the editor in the browser sandbox, and can edit local files/directories.

Sure. And the google map api is free to use, you can send tweet using sms, facebook doesn't show ads and web services never change policies once they get enough users.

Good thing it's running on your machine and you can see and control when it updates.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

tills13 wrote: post #123

benatkin wrote: post #103

Part of the Visual Studio Code brand is that it's open source. With this snarky announcement, they've changed that. I've been using https://vscodium.com/ and who knows when there will be a web version. :(

How is this announcement snarky? Also this seems like something they could easily open-source down the road.

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Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by hunterb123 » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

peakaboo wrote: post #57

I don't think this will be a success. If I get to choose between this and my own local installation, of course i will run the local version. Why would I want to sit in the browser? To continue on the same cursor position I was if I switch computer? Not worth it at all.

It's not competing against local, it's in addition to.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by yesimahuman » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:13 PM UTC

joshuarubin wrote: post #101

While I know it's not the fault of the vscode team, it sucks that Firefox feels like a second class citizen since it doesn't support the File System Access API.

It’s these kinds of big mainstream products using these APIs that are the only hope to get Firefox to prioritize them. Barring that I see FF further left behind. Very frustrating as a FF user myself.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by hackeratrandom » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:16 PM UTC

I like using the web to create the web … & yes, always keeping an eye towards us continuing to make it the “we”b ;-)

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by jcmontx » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:17 PM UTC

I love it! Great job MSFT.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by paxys » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:19 PM UTC

artisanspam wrote: post #75

I was hoping this would be the thing that makes coding on an iPad not awful. But any keyboard shortcuts are consumed by Safari, so it's a pain to use. However, I hope that this enables the VS Code team to make a native iOS/Android VS Code app that would essentially just be a web browser that uses this functionality.

I absolutely do not want VS Code to be an iOS or Android app, since that means giving up all the massive progress they have made towards fully open web-based development and bowing down to the gated App Store model. If that means a less than perfect experience on iOS devices then so be it. VS Code as it exists today wouldn't even be allowed in the App Store under existing rules.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by hbn » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:26 PM UTC

mseepgood wrote: post #80

What's the feature that allows a website to open local files and folders? Edit: I think I found it: File System Access API, supported by Chrome and Edge, not supported by Safari and Firefox

> supported by Chrome and Edge

read: supported by Chrome

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:32 PM UTC

noizejoy wrote: post #160

pjmlp wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is how many of us used to work on UNIX and similar timesharing OSes. The cloud + browser is back to the future.

Brings back sweet memories of Multics[0], which predated Unix by quite a bit: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

My first experience with such setup was the DG/UX at the university campus, where we had a mix of classical green/ambar phosphor terminals, and a couple of X-Windows thin clients from IBM to connect to it.

Regarding Multics, it was a failure only for Bell Labs themselves, as the project kept going and had still a couple of years for itself.

https://multicians.org/myths.html

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by enumjorge » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 8:49 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #147

n8cpdx wrote: post #5

Very cool stuff. I remember being at Build 2018 and asking the PM on the Live Share team if they had any plans to bring VS Code to the browser. Maybe do managed environments for labs and companies (what GitHub code spaces now is), would be great for education. Lots of students (especially non-CS nerds, like the physics kids with a CS requirement) find environment setup to be one of the hardest parts. He seemed to thi…

On every HN thread I count the minutes until it turns into a personal rant against some big company, and it never disappoints.

And while those stories are interesting to hear, I don’t know why they so often make it to the top or near it. Like is one PM being bad at listening to user feedback really the most interesting topic of discussion for this post?