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Post by dilap »

reayn wrote: post #159
dilap wrote: post #123

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Haha, yeah I'm not going to argue for rich Corinthian leather, or the aesthetics of the old iTunes UI or brushed metal or whatever. The visual style now is great. But the usability and quality of the animations and general fit-and-finish is much lower now, I think. Some examples of pretty glaring failures that exist now: Tabs in mac Safari: Very unobvious, sometimes even anti-obvious, which tab is currently selected.…

>but surprisingly there doesn't seem to be an easy, imgur-esqe site to share videos?? I thought you could upload videos to imgur? Anyhow: Quick and easy: https://filebin.net https://litterbox.catbox.moe Signing up (free tier) is worth it imo: https://blackhole.run My personal favorite[0]: https://0x0.st 0. try out this little script i use to make uploading files from a CLI dead easy: https://gitlab.com/co1ncidence/do…

Lovely, thank you!

Unfortunately, all I have to give in return in this video of a sloppy Safari animation. :-)

https://filebin.net/59kjnt15u834j7xl/safari-anim.mov

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Post by robotresearcher »

soperj wrote: post #137
sokoloff wrote: post #134

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I suspect there are CS programs that don’t even teach C at this point.

That seems really weird to me. We even did a machine language course even though we will never do any machine language programming. It's good to understand what the hell is going on. C is amazing in explaining how memory management works, since you have to do it all yourself.

C teaches you how PDP11 memory management works. Modern PC/server hardware doesn't work like this, neither do modern applications that use accelerators, and while the system works hard to present this virtual address space to your runtime, you don't need to think about it in many languages, from LISP to Swift. Most devs write Javascript.

I say this as a person who loves C and taught it lovingly to undergrads for many years.

Embedded system programming is a lovely niche, but we don't need to design CS curricula around it.

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Post by actusual »

sulam wrote: post #125
actusual wrote: post #81

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Steve quotes in the video "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been" which is of course a Wayne Gretsky quote, and I think it captures this sentiment very well. Moving from leader to follower is such a classic move for an incumbent like Apple, and with Steve they never seemed to lose that insurgent mindset, even when they were absolutely enormous. They've steadily stagnated and truly lost that…

Honestly I don't see this. I realize it's a simple narrative, and it's one that plays well with the heroic arc, but businesses are not Aesop's Fables, sat on this earth to give us a morality tale to use to guide our children. The facts on the ground are far more complicated than "Apple was creative under Steve and isn't under Cook." Apple had MORE products when in the market when Steve came back as CEO, and he ruthle…

I think Steve was a product guy and Cook is more likely a business guy. I'm not making a value judgement either way, but I do see a lack of product vision/innovation under Cook, and I believe product vision/innovation is what excites me most about consumer electronics. I think the fact that Steve released several "once in a lifetime" level of success products in such a short time span is evidence enough for this.

Something that Steve jobs did well was understanding that building great products and successful business metrics aren't necessarily always aligned, especially in a product's nascent period.

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Post by allturtles »

tptacek wrote: post #66
killion wrote: post #23

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”. The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left. There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he w…

I can't think of much I would trade from now for something in the Jobs era. I can do without the rich Corinthian leather, the PowerPC, and the colored plastic. The new keyboards aren't great, but I've dropped this MBP at least 30 times and it still keeps chugging; I'm pretty sure an errant dust particle could have take out my first Intel Macbook.

> rich Corinthian leather

What does this mean? Is this a metonymy for skeumorphic design?

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Post by reayn »

dilap wrote: post #161
reayn wrote: post #159

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>but surprisingly there doesn't seem to be an easy, imgur-esqe site to share videos?? I thought you could upload videos to imgur? Anyhow: Quick and easy: https://filebin.net https://litterbox.catbox.moe Signing up (free tier) is worth it imo: https://blackhole.run My personal favorite[0]: https://0x0.st 0. try out this little script i use to make uploading files from a CLI dead easy: https://gitlab.com/co1ncidence/do…

Lovely, thank you! Unfortunately, all I have to give in return in this video of a sloppy Safari animation. :-) https://filebin.net/59kjnt15u834j7xl/safari-anim.mov

lol it's no problem.

I've noticed the same animation issues in safari, and tbh, its very unlike apple.

There are other apps in macOS which have collapsible sidebars (preview and finder come to mind), but they don't suffer with the same icon lag issue.

And as far as I know, catalyst (which I assume is what's being used now for almost all of the new mac apps with the blurry sidebar) should handle these things inherently, it's strange that this seems to be a safari exclusive problem.

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Post by edmundsauto »

GDC7 wrote: post #106
burnished wrote: post #84

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You're talking about the idea of some one who hurts and abuses other people no longer being allowed to be a part of polite society, and the people that want that to be the case, like its a bad thing. It is just mind boggling. Do you read your own comments?

> You're talking about the idea of some one who hurts and abuses other people no longer being allowed to be a part of polite society, and the people that want that to be the case, like its a bad thing. No , the bad thing is that when somebody is dragged out in the court of public opinion all the positive contributions of that particular individual are not taken into consideration. I am now a wide eyed utopian, I am a…

Feynman is a weird example - he talks about pickup culture and getting women to sleep with him. He also was a bad husband, spent a lot of time in a strip club drawing "art", and chased after Las Vegas Showgirls.

I'm not certain he would have been cancelled - I think that's mostly projection - but it's useful to acknowledge he wasn't exactly a "good guy", despite his contributions to science.

(The screed about the Nazis has already been debunked in another comment.)

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Post by Stevvo »

nzmsv wrote: post #111
takahisah wrote: post #100

Ten years ago I was at Infinite Loop, when Apple held a special event in memory of Steve. Everybody was wearing sunglasses to hide their tears, even Tim and Jony. I remember Jonys speech quite vividly as it showed how truly close they were. He joked about how he would never unpack his bags upon arriving at a hotel because Steve would call him and say the hotel is shit so they had to move immediately after checking in…

> He joked about how he would never unpack his bags upon arriving at a hotel because Steve would call him and say the hotel is shit so they had to move immediately after checking in. I think it’s those human connections he made that made him so great. This is awful, no? There are people like that who can never be pleased. Usually narcissists. I fail to see where the human connection is in being a crybaby Karen. Not t…

Maybe the hotels really were shit, and the response was somewhat reasonable?

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Post by edmundsauto »

GDC7 wrote: post #152
bigbillheck wrote: post #149

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You're going to have to explain what the Manhattan Project had to do with victory in Europe. And after that, please explain why Feynman's contributions to it were so critical. Finally, I'd like to ask for an explanation as to how Feynman's actions starting in 1949 could have had a causal effect on a war that ended in 1945.

> Finally, I'd like to ask for an explanation as to how Feynman's actions starting in 1949 could have had a causal effect on a war that ended in 1945. That's exactly what I mean, thank you! You have stressed the whole point! Society feels comfortable in canceling people because these people already gave their contribution and for sure the person being canceled can't retroactively destroy all their contributions. If t…

Society "cancelled" Harvey Weinstein because he raped multiple women, to the point where it was an in-joke in Hollywood. I don't think he's much of a good example except to identify how long it takes for justice to reach someone.

Maybe someone like Aziz Ansari is a better example... except he wasn't really cancelled - just hit a bump in his career that he had to acknowledge. (Similarly, Louis CK).

I absolutely would be OK with deleting every record of those movies, some of which are my favorites, if there were any point in doing so. The important thing is that a rapist is held accountable!

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Post by na85 »

Bud wrote: post #93
killion wrote: post #68

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Definitely, I don’t see a way you could elevate someone to the level Steve was at. I think the plan was to have Jony Ive be the final word on design person. But with iOS 7 Ives showed he didn’t get software and the “design is how it works” concept.

Not really. iOS 7 is an insignificant blip. Hundreds of other times, Ive showed that he was the best in the entire world at the "design is how it works" concept. Ive was the embodiment of that for his entire time at Apple. Jony Ive is the person who made it possible for Steve Jobs to say that without being laughed at. Don't diss Jony Ive. He is the man.

Jony Ive is the reason Apple has a fetish for thinness at the expense of functionality, is he not?

He's a chump.

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