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Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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I've read the whole thread and am absolutely surprised. Why is nobody telling about plex's ditching of their plugin system? Have invested a lot of time in developing plex's plugin for youtube, twitch, and my favorite streaming services, paid a lifetime fee to plex. And now the whole plugins system is disabled. That's the only reason why I've switched to Jellyfin. It's not better than plex. It's definitely worse, but…

Do you have more details on this? I’ve found that it seems to have been made ‘unsupported’ in 2018, but theres still plugins that apparently work as of this month, and can’t find anything about the plugin function actually being disabled wholesale?

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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I'm with you. I wish Plex they didn't offer a lifetime plex pass, because one-time payments (instead of a monthly subscription) are likely the cause of Plex needing to do all this extra stuff no one asked for to further monetize. I check out Jellyfin periodically, but the last time I checked it isn't quite ready to replace Plex for me. All the apps (ios, Android, Android TV) aren't great, crash, and I don't think the…

I consistently argue that the issue with Plex is not income, but desperately attempting to rebrand as a “legitimate” media centre. Look at the marketing materials and features from the last few years: Specifically trying to avoid any thought of pirated content.

> I consistently argue that the issue with Plex is not income, but desperately attempting to rebrand as a “legitimate” media centre.

If they are low on income due to non-recurring life-time purchases (which I have made myself), and the streaming thingies offered is a income-driver...

I say it's both.

> Look at the marketing materials and features from the last few years: Specifically trying to avoid any thought of pirated content.

I realize this may not reflect the majority use-case, but using Plex for non-pirated content it's still absolutely something people do.

Personally on my Plex-server, I host Photos from all the family, music I've purchased either digitally, or ripped from CDs I own, more accessible copies of DVDs/Bluerays I've also bought and owned, not to mention other DRM-free movies, media and various courses I've bought online.

In my jurisdiction none of this is illegal, and using Plex to manage that media makes managing that media-collection so much better. Why everyone assumes Plex can only be used for pirated contents beats me.

Plex just works(tm), everywhere, no matter what I feed it, and I remember with great dismay how things used to be before I had Plex.

The day Jellyfin gets good enough, I might switch, because it's FOSS and I like FOSS, but for the time being, the simplicity and just-works-ness of Plex means I'll stick around.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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> but it's open, and that's how I am sure it will work forever. Why are you so sure about it? IIRC Emby was also open sourced before it wasn't, at which point it was forked into Jellyfin. Based on that alone, I wouldn't be too surprised if Jellyfin pulls the same thing down the road, forcing you to move to yet another fork down the line.

It's a community project started after Emby became closed source. They have multiple contributors who don't assign copyright. They legally can't become closed source even if someone wanted to. No one owns the whole code.

Who’s going to sue someone taking it closed source?

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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I've been a Plex-to-Jellyfin convert for a long while now, and I've nothing bad to say. I switched because Plex kept pushing their streaming services, and the fuzzy feeling I get from running FOSS. Jellyfin used to run on my desktop which has a beefy CPU/GPU, but runs fine on my puny Synology NAS.

How difficult is the transition from Plex to Jellyfin, do you lose any capabilities? Also what's the fuzzy feeling you get running FOSS? Do you contribute to the project?

> How difficult is the transition from Plex to Jellyfin

You obviously need to setup a some new software, optionally on a new server/container, and need to reconfigure all your libraries.

Not a big deal IMO.

> do you lose any capabilities?

I had issues with HDR-output to my TV (on my AppleTV 4K), and that for me was a show-stopper. Also the application is generally not as smooth or polished.

It might improve though, so I'm sure I'll check it out again some time later.

> Also what's the fuzzy feeling you get running FOSS?

You know that the people making it want to solve the same problems you do. That they are not desperately seeking a way to make money, because that can often severely affect the direction the software is taking.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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Jellyfin is awesome, but there's a few caveats for me. - Android TV app is quite unstable. Even if you make it do direct streaming, it's not a flawless playback - Sometimes hangs when clicking next episode. I also kind of wish the login experience was a bit better. - Android App is decent, but for music it's unusable. I'm still using plex + plexamp because that experience is just so much better for me. But, I don't r…

Are you on the latest Android TV beta https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-androidtv/releases

btw for Android TV i would recommend installing kodi and the jellyfin plugin

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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Where do you keep track of the LG app status? I’d love to track the progress too

The project is here: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-webos Unfortunately, it's been pretty quiet the last few months after seemingly getting close to a retry in the LG store.

Most of the webOS development happens in the web repo, you can see some items with webOS tag.

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-web/labels/p%3A%20webos

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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post #101

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Because some people just prefer something to be laid out a certain way. I have that with music for example, I don't care about albums other than a grouping unit for files (my playlist is flat though). Album art, etc is otherwise irrelevant to me, but some music apps will fetishize organization by album, etc and the art is highlighted etc.

Oh man, I can't find a single usable music app on Linux. I've used MusicBee for years on wine, but I'm stuck on an older version (for stability) and now that I want to run all of my stuff on a Rpi4 I'm screwed (wine+x86 app is a pain). I installed quodlibet, rythmbox, clementine, amarok... All hot garbage when it comes to UI layout. So for now I'm still running MusicBee on an old laptop and controlling playback via t…

Check out mpd+ncmpcpp, or Navidrome. I use the latter.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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Sort of. When you dig in you discover it that support isn't that great. There are efforts by the community, but Microsoft is doing nothing to help - in particular they regularly break things with each release, and once they do a stable release the previous release is no longer supported. There are some great efforts, the other comment linked one, but in the end forums are full of users asking for help with something…

You made me go read. Its a shit-show of the complex packaging and build assumptions at source, the horrendous tooling, and the difficulty negotiating the changes. .NEt is up to 5 or 6 and the email/forum threads seem to be talking about 2.x and 3. I wish things weren't this complex. But then I remember how much I hate autoconf/configure/libtool, and think "hmm maybe it wasn't so bad after all" Re-implement .NET in RU…

FWIW .NET Core 2.1 and 3.1 are LTS versions, support for 2.1 ended last month and for 3.1 in December 2022. .NET 4 is not relevant in this context because of versioning changes over the years and can be ignored. .NET 6 will be the next LTS version, to be released later this year.

Re: Jellyfin: Free Software Media System

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> but it's open, and that's how I am sure it will work forever. Why are you so sure about it? IIRC Emby was also open sourced before it wasn't, at which point it was forked into Jellyfin. Based on that alone, I wouldn't be too surprised if Jellyfin pulls the same thing down the road, forcing you to move to yet another fork down the line.

It's a community project started after Emby became closed source. They have multiple contributors who don't assign copyright. They legally can't become closed source even if someone wanted to. No one owns the whole code.

> They have multiple contributors who don't assign copyright.

But that doesn't guarantee they wouldn't if Jellyfin approached them like "here's $X for writing this code". Or try hiring them from the start and asking them to sign a contract that transfers their copyright over to the company. Or maybe the contributors would tell them no, make a media fuss about it, and then Jellyfin's team could track down their commits and just re-write them.

Of course, I'm not saying that this will happen, nor I am saying that the Jellyfin's team will even make an attempt at going down this road, but the fact that it's open sourced at the moment is not a guarantee that it wouldn't be in the future.

Emby had a fair amount of contributors as well (https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Emby/graphs/contributors) and then they've just stopped pushing more commits to it. As far as I'm aware, none of those people sued them.

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