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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by caeril »

Barrin92 wrote: post #72

I don't understand the economics of this at all. Video distribution is bandwidth heavy. If you're running your own peer tube instance the server costs are surely going to outstrip any revenue you make from it. if users have to carry that load and seed your stuff they'll have to waste their own storage. What is the incentive for anyone to do this? Exacerbated by the fact that the entire thing mostly seems to attract p…

> What is the incentive for anyone to do this?

What is the incentive for anyone to run a Tor/i2p/IPFS/Torrent seed node?

This is difficult for normies to understand, but money isn't the only thing that incentivizes people to do things. There are many people for whom "Fuck YouTube" is the only incentive required to participate.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 1MachineElf »

ekianjo wrote: post #131
Barrin92 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because people want to download illegal movies and porn, or host linux isos as a service for the commons. There's practically no commercial activity around torrents because it's an incredibly inefficient way to serve large amounts of data.

> illegal movies What's illegal movies?

Here's an example of a movie declared illegal in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magnitsky_Act_%E2%80%93_Be...

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by Mary-Jane »

phone8675309 wrote: post #141
tomxor wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's the thing: It doesn't have to pay off and it doesn't have to generate revenue. That's not its goal. It is not a business model. This is the answer to so much of what's wrong with the modern web. We need less business and to get more communities back into the center of the web... it should be even easier today since IaaS is so much cheaper, I think it's just a focus problem, nothing is relevant to the big sit…

Opening the Net to commerce was digital original sin

That's right. Cos money is the root of absolutely all all evil, everywhere, for all time!

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by 1MachineElf »

cblconfederate wrote: post #61

Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners

>Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos?

PeerTube uses BitTorrent under the hood.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by howaboutnope »

Barrin92 wrote: post #72

I don't understand the economics of this at all. Video distribution is bandwidth heavy. If you're running your own peer tube instance the server costs are surely going to outstrip any revenue you make from it. if users have to carry that load and seed your stuff they'll have to waste their own storage. What is the incentive for anyone to do this? Exacerbated by the fact that the entire thing mostly seems to attract p…

> if users have to carry that load and seed your stuff they'll have to waste their own storage.

Waste? They'd be using storage that would otherwise most likely be sitting there, unused. Or in other words, wasted.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by Barrin92 »

zuminator wrote: post #92
Barrin92 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because people want to download illegal movies and porn, or host linux isos as a service for the commons. There's practically no commercial activity around torrents because it's an incredibly inefficient way to serve large amounts of data.

Legal or not, the fact that many people host and share dozens of large torrents from their home servers for free belies the claim that sharing video would necessarily be too expensive to be practical or would devolve back to turn off the century RealVideo quality.

the legality matters a great deal because if you steal the IP obviously even cumbersome technology becomes viable.

Cartels don't use drug mules because they're such a fantastic feat of logistics but because hiring a freight train is somewhat problematic

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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Post by kradeelav »

iamstupidsimple wrote: post #105
pacifist wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you want advertisers? Advertisers are part of the problem.

You'll have a hard time convincing any creator to cut off a revenue source like ads for ideological reasons.

Not a youtuber, but I had a successful art/webcomic-related patreon once before deleting it precisely because of ideological reasons. (Or as I prefer to call them, ethics.)

I would much rather the old internet come back where "content creator" was never a word that existed, or could exist.

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