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Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by rocqua »

pixel_fcker wrote: post #94
cameronh90 wrote: post #26

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Hasn't this behaviour been the case since at least Windows 98? I'd say Windows has improved a lot since then! Remember Active Desktop, the Channel Bar and MSNBC? I may have misgivings about certain things in modern desktops but Windows 10, OneDrive, Teams, Edge absolutely deliver a better experience for an average user compared to XP, Microsoft Briefcase, Windows Messenger and IE6 - and XP was one of the good ones!

Teams is a strong contender for most aggravating software ever written.

It's written horribly, butstillbetter than Skype for business

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by Nition »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #28
meibo wrote: post #17

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It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.

> Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon Possibly related to Microsoft explicitly saying "there will be no further versions of Windows after Windows 10".

I semi-seriously wonder if they did it because Apple finally decided to increment their number to Mac OS 11.

I also wonder if Apple went to 11 because Microsoft got to 10.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by peakaboo »

shkkmo wrote: post #144
nightski wrote: post #132

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This is in a pre-release build. I'm not happy to hear about it, but in reality Windows 10 has been incredibly reliable. Can't remember the last time I saw a crash to be honest, and I use it for 8-10 hours a day most of the time.

You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours? I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

No, it's not your computer if you run Windows on it.

The only way for you to get control over your computer is to run Linux, and today that's very easy.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by hulitu »

makeitdouble wrote: post #158
asdff wrote: post #136

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A computer is a tool. You buy it to perform what it is advertised to do, just like a socket wrench set. But unlike a socket wrench set, the manufacturer could break into your home in the night and replace your rachet and make it incompatible with your old sockets that still work.

Microsoft Teams is a service, so more like trains or taxis in the physical world. Tomorrow train operators could all be on strike and we'd just be SOL. I think the change that people haven't completely caught on with is a lot of digital tools becoming services. A bit like how enterprises used to own printers, and those are now rented appliances paid by month or by printed page.

Teams is not a service. Is a program used to talk to other people, like buying tickets for the train or talking with the passengers. Teams has to run in an environment when it is not alone. You need to get on the train, search for a place etc. TBH teams behaves more like a service than like a program. Using teams is like talking to somebody at the other end of the train.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by Haga »

errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

How about we call them attackers like the maleware providers they are?

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by nicbou »

dexwiz wrote: post #154
shkkmo wrote: post #144

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You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours? I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

This drives me insane. I try to boot up and play a game, only to find my FPS cut in half due to some background d operation that Windows has determined critical. But not critical enough to tell me beforehand.

Same. Windows is literally just a Fortnite OS, and it manages to mess up often enough to be a problem.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by Hithredin »

dexwiz wrote: post #154
shkkmo wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours? I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

This drives me insane. I try to boot up and play a game, only to find my FPS cut in half due to some background d operation that Windows has determined critical. But not critical enough to tell me beforehand.

All mainstream games targetting a reliable OS (Linux?) will be coming soon if they continue this way.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by liketochill »

ajdude wrote: post #93
fabianhjr wrote: post #90

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> We simply cannot trust Microsoft with mission-critical software any longer. We generally don't, most servers and mission critical infrastructure runs Linux or a BSD. What scares me is that many medical devices do run on Windows and that is a future Therac-25 like incident waiting to happen ( https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Therac-25 )

Some years ago I went to the dentist and had to get x-rays done on my teeth. After a fair bit of time going through all of the different angles, the technician apologized to me and said that we have to do it all again. The computer tied to the x-ray machine did a forced restart for Windows update, this is back in the days of Windows 7, and I had to get my teeth x-rayed all over again after we sat and waited for 20 mi…

This is why yeah computers for controlling machines should not be allowed to indiscriminately access the internet.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by hulitu »

sleepytimetea wrote: post #60

HERE BE DRAGONS. From the article comes this nugget of knowledge. quote This problem combines two of latter-day Windows' most annoying tendencies. First, the operating system relentlessly promotes and prioritizes Microsoft's first-party apps and services. Second, the operating system talks to Microsoft's servers in the background to report diagnostic data, fetch advertisements, and even download Windows Store apps wi…

> Second, the operating system talks to Microsoft's servers in the background to report diagnostic data, fetch advertisements, and even download Windows Store apps without asking.

Microsoft has learned nothing from Solar Winds. Time for some popcorn. It's funny how the concept of security has slipped from "no open ports and no default services" to "backdoors (automatic download and install) and telemetry (data exfiltration without permission -also backdoor).

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by fctorial »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #157
shkkmo wrote: post #144

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You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours? I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

No, I think they mean the stable Windows 10 that pushes Xbox, Skype, Microsoft Office, SkyDrive, and Candy Crush onto you. The one that "helpfully" resets default applications and privacy settings to the ones Microsoft wants you to use, and then whines at you (or gives vague threats) when you do choose something else. The one that turned logging in from pretty much an instant thing to a random wait while you get a "W…

windows education edition doesn't have ads, or candy crush.
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