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Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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I'm not aware of many jobs that "drug" test for any use of alcohol. Yet with cannabis this is considered acceptable.

Cannabis is a Schedule I drug. Alcohol is not.

Not for any legitimate reasons, though. Mostly for historical, political reasons.

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Driving high is still driving impaired. The failure modes may be different, but that doesn't mean someone who is high is safe to drive. I'm not sure what the point of your comment is though, as I don't think anyone is suggesting that these drivers will actually be high while driving. Rather, they are people that use marijuana recreationally and would test positive for THC, disqualifying them from many jobs (despite t…

Driving high is like driving as a grandma. You're hyper vigilant, looking everywhere, your reactions are delayed a little such as that of an 60 year old person, and you're definitely listening to speed "limit" as the maximum, and not as the average.

As an avid marijuana user here, no, this is not the narrative that should be spread. As others have said, weed makes you incredibly impaired, just in other ways.

You are slower to process inputs, you are less likely to consider threats or obstacles as dangerous, to an extent your ability to judge distances is hindered, you are much more easily distracted (highway hypnosis, for example, becomes a huge problem - especially with blinking lights and whatnot), your ability to focus is oftentimes next to zero, causing you to be distracted often by music or other passengers in the car.

Plus, driving slowly in and of itself is a hazard - the "speed rule" exists for a reason. If everyone is going 30 mph over the speed limit on a busy highway, you are more likely to cause an accident by going the posted speed limit than if you were to go the same speed as the rest of the traffic - even though it's technically illegal.

So please, do not use marijuana and drive. Stay at home and watch Money Heist and postmates a McFlurry from McDonalds or something.

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When high, you are impaired and shouldn't be driving. Period.

I don't disagree but being high is not a singular, impaired state.

None of the states I've ever been, over the thousands of times I have partaken, with the maybe hundred different strains, with different percentages of indica/sativa, at different dosages, in different forms (flower vs. edible vs. whatever else), have ever been safe for me to operate a vehicle.

No, nobody is an exception. You are not superhuman.

Please stop normalizing this. This narrative makes it harder to change the minds of dissenters and legitimize legalization for those people that actually benefit from it.

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I don't disagree but being high is not a singular, impaired state.

None of the states I've ever been, over the thousands of times I have partaken, with the maybe hundred different strains, with different percentages of indica/sativa, at different dosages, in different forms (flower vs. edible vs. whatever else), have ever been safe for me to operate a vehicle. No, nobody is an exception. You are not superhuman. Please stop normalizing this. This narrative makes it harder to change t…

Sorry, I don't agree. I don't think cannabis is just a drug for having fun. I'm open to scientific studies that show that car accidents increase but your experience is yours and mine is mine.

The people who have a problem with it aren't going to be able to stop legalization.

You shouldn't do it, I agree.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Some of the comments are assuming that all those who smoke pot are irresponsible or unable to do a job if they do smoke pot (this includes people who may only smoke at weekends/parties btw)

Decades of exposure to intentionally misleading propaganda is difficult to ignore. It becomes a part of the worldview, making it hard to even think outside that box.

The science is settled. Trust the science, government knows best.

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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after all, what's the difference between a drunk driver and a stoner driver? the drunk driver runs the red light, and the stoner keeps waiting for the stop sign to turn green!

More realistically:

The drunk driver will tell you that they're basically sober, and will be shocked when everyone can tell from their behavior that they're drunk.

The stoned driver will tell you how stoned they are, and will be concerned that everyone else on the street can tell from their behavior.

(These are, of course, broad generalizations. There will be exceptions.)

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Which country are you in? Alcohol is one of the most highly regulated substances on the planet. Also, no puritanism here, just facts about how people can use pot and remain completely in control (again, worth pointing out that someone can fail a pot drug test if they smoked it weeks ago)

Meaning most people can drink alcohol without fear of being tested for past use in a work context. We don't regulate it in the workplace the way we regulate pot use.

I think a big part of the issue is how the subtances work and how the tests work.

Are there tests that indicate past use of alcohol or just the ones I'm aware of where the measurement drops swiftly as alcohol is processed?

Same for marijuana; is there an objective(ish) test that indicates current intoxication or only the tests that show use within about a month?

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